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Old 08-22-2018, 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by cargowarrior View Post
Unfortunately, they are leaving for better pay at Atlas, which is also in need of fair contract too. ABX played on the fact that they were the only airline in the region for a while. However, now that Atlas has moved in they are forced to compete for service, not only for business but for talent as well. I hope ABX/ATSG realizes people are an asset and not just a liability. They can demonstrate this by negotiating a fair contract. Then we can try an save this ship. However, IMHO the iceberg has already struck and now is taking on water. Those who left I wish them the best at Atlas or wherever they land. I was a dispatcher before I took to the friendly sky’s no way I’d survive on what GFS pays. I’d bolt for Atlas too, least they have a union to back them up and negotiate a fair wage.
Do you even know what you are talking about? Atlas is in worse shape than ABX. K4 is the place to go. I am assuming you know who is K4.

As far as a better Union, it’s the same Union and Local that represents both Atlas and ABX. Again, you don’t have a clue.
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Old 08-22-2018, 01:14 AM
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Do you even know what you are talking about? Atlas is in worse shape than ABX.
It's not absolutely clear, but I think they were referring to schedulers, who do seem to be better paid at Atlas than at ABX.
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Old 08-22-2018, 02:26 AM
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Do you even know what you are talking about? Atlas is in worse shape than ABX. K4 is the place to go. I am assuming you know who is K4.

As far as a better Union, it’s the same Union and Local that represents both Atlas and ABX. Again, you don’t have a clue.
Obviously you only read what you wanted to read in this paragraph. Has nothing to do with pilots. If you would have taken the extra 2 minutes to read all the way through and bothered to read the original post you would have seen, that who ever posted was saying they aren’t a pilot and they hope we get a fair contract, so that they can have a better future too.

Yes, besides us Teamsters their are other Unions in the Aviation field. Atlas Dispatch is Unionized. So before you throw before you refer to someone as not having a clue perhaps you should take a breath and read first. Also realize that others at ABX have a stake in us getting a contract too.

Yes I’m aware of Kallitta (aka Connie, K4)

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Old 08-22-2018, 02:58 AM
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It's not absolutely clear, but I think they were referring to schedulers, who do seem to be better paid at Atlas than at ABX.
Yes Dispatch and other SOC departments. GFS, Global Flight Servise, another company of ATSG, that handle our dispatching duties. Shame they Dispatch for two companies (ABX/ATI) yet are under paid to dispatch for one.

I have no real idea of what Scheduler make. Obviously better elsewhere, I don’t blame anyone looking to improve their situation as long as they aren’t crapping on me or others to get ahead. Heck if all the schedulers left perhaps 4th Quarter would be a bigger cluster that would then force them to do something for us. I know I have at least 6-7 D6 days I’m owed. Wishful thinking!

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Old 08-22-2018, 03:04 AM
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Sorry but he can’t help himself. He doesn’t know how run a successful company.
For a supposed idiot JH does seem to be able to find ways to get $$$. Anyone know what his last 10 years comp has been with stock?
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Old 08-22-2018, 03:46 AM
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For a supposed idiot JH does seem to be able to find ways to get $$$. Anyone know what his last 10 years comp has been with stock?
https://www1.salary.com/Joseph-C-Hete-Salary-Bonus-Stock-Options-for-AIR-TRANSPORT-SERVICES-GROUP.html

Don’t know how accurate those numbers are but I imagine somewhere in that range.
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Old 08-22-2018, 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by cargowarrior View Post
Obviously you only read what you wanted to read in this paragraph. Has nothing to do with pilots. If you would have taken the extra 2 minutes to read all the way through and bothered to read the original post you would have seen, that who ever posted was saying they aren’t a pilot and they hope we get a fair contract, so that they can have a better future too.

Yes, besides us Teamsters their are other Unions in the Aviation field. Atlas Dispatch is Unionized. So before you throw before you refer to someone as not having a clue perhaps you should take a breath and read first. Also realize that others at ABX have a stake in us getting a contract too.

Yes I’m aware of Kallitta (aka Connie, K4)

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Ok; my bad. I honestly thought you were referring to the pilot’s side of the house. I sit back and relax before jumping in the next time.
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Old 08-22-2018, 08:41 AM
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For a supposed idiot JH does seem to be able to find ways to get $$$. Anyone know what his last 10 years comp has been with stock?
Yes, can find way to make money. However, he could have make more money if he was more of a visionary. Can you imagine what would have happened if ATSG wouldn’t have supplied Amerijet with 767s? And again NAC? JH would have own Caribbean and Central America. He then could have set the air shipping rates in those areas. But no, he likes the low hanging fruit. He is too lazy.
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Old 08-22-2018, 09:57 AM
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Ok; my bad. I honestly thought you were referring to the pilot’s side of the house. I sit back and relax before jumping in the next time.
All good brother carry on and Fly safe!
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Old 08-22-2018, 12:35 PM
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All good brother carry on and Fly safe!
Thanks.....👍
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