Who is ATSG ABX Air President?
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Yes. You eventually get your time off, but in the meantime, you get paid for it. That's how you ride the D6 train to mo' money, mo' money, mo' money! (for those who remember that far back, when Jim Carrey was still funny and JLo was a Fly Girl)
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The days of “In Living Color”, thanks!
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Close...you can be JRM'd on a D6 day but the original D6 day is gone.. it does not go back into the bank. You do earn another one plus JRM pay.
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You used the D6 day to turn a work day into a day off, which is what makes it another JRM when they give you an assignment on that day. It's the money multiplier that pays you a bonus to work on a day you would otherwise be working anyway.
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Yeah, I was thinking I may have missed that part in my answer.
You used the D6 day to turn a work day into a day off, which is what makes it another JRM when they give you an assignment on that day. It's the money multiplier that pays you a bonus to work on a day you would otherwise be working anyway.
You used the D6 day to turn a work day into a day off, which is what makes it another JRM when they give you an assignment on that day. It's the money multiplier that pays you a bonus to work on a day you would otherwise be working anyway.
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Phil Scruggs at AerCap, Steve Rimmer at Guggenheim (now Altavair) and Dave Houlihan from AWAS (now DAE Capital) would have been kicking in the door at those airlines for the opportunity to place aircraft there, as all of them have actually done successfully at Cargojet.
That CAM and Titan snagged the 40-aircraft order from a highly-creditworthy customer like Amazon has I'm sure chapped the heinies of all the guys above, and that accomplishment has a lot to do, I think, with the job that CAM, LGSTX and ABX did for Amazon with the Aerosmith network. The Amazon flying was initially ABX's to lose, just as future aircraft orders are for CAM and Titan to lose. But I'm confident that every one of those other lessors has crafted and pitched other methods by which Amazon could address its lift needs, and every one of them is looking for ways to eliminate any perceived advantage in the 767-300 leasing space that CAM and Titan might currently have.
I think that it is notable that N380AN is being converted for Cargojet in TLV, but not by CAM. It's the first ex-AA 767-300 in some time that was purchased and converted by someone other than CAM. This was a missed opportunity by CAM, which had just placed a newly-converted ex-AA 767-300 at Cargojet in November of last year.
There is a lot of competition in aircraft leasing, and if CAM doesn't do it, somebody else will.
I also think that it would have been nearly-impossible for ABX to make money on the business currently being serviced by Amerijet and NAC. Yes, Amerijet is flying the living crap out of its recently-acquired 767-300s, pounding them with business in the financially-challenging little niche that it serves. But it's a niche in which it is notoriously-difficult to get paid enough, if to get paid at all. Meanwhile, Northern's MIA operation is going to have to score a lot more business if it is going to survive. Some folks driving regularly by the airport would swear that the NAC and StratAir aircraft haven't moved in weeks. They have moved, but that impression is telling, and valid. Given that ABX doesn't have an integrated source of business like StratAir and Amerijet do, I don't see where it could have fit profitably into their niche. Some may disagree with that, but certainly those guys could have found aircraft elsewhere if CAM didn't want to lease to them.
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Let's break this down. A guy is put in charge comes in threatening everyone's careers. Massive amounts of fos quit with the furlough threat.
Then the head of training quits, the head of scheduling quits and takes schedulers with him. The Co ERC and instructor quits, line check pilots quit. Many pilots take early retirement. The stock price tanks, flying is lost.
Massive amounts of jr manning going on so much so the 4th qu is going to be 2016 all over. At what point does the rest of the ATSG board realize someone who threatens employees and lies is not the way to accomplish goals?
Oh and trying to hide the fact that a 27 million offer was just creative accounting to make it look like it was alot of money.
I guess ACMI doesn't pay enough for them to hire someone with business sense, integrity, talent, and knows how to lead employees not make them give 2 shxts less about their company.
Alot of pilots quitting and almost all looking. No end in sight for ACMI carriers to realize each day that goes by they keep letting employees leave and the reputation of the airline continues to tank. Im sure there will be a meeting about these message board posts and instead of fixing the problem they will look the penalize the pilot group in some way.
How many are going to Kalitta for the 4th quater instead of staying at ABX for the melt down?
Then the head of training quits, the head of scheduling quits and takes schedulers with him. The Co ERC and instructor quits, line check pilots quit. Many pilots take early retirement. The stock price tanks, flying is lost.
Massive amounts of jr manning going on so much so the 4th qu is going to be 2016 all over. At what point does the rest of the ATSG board realize someone who threatens employees and lies is not the way to accomplish goals?
Oh and trying to hide the fact that a 27 million offer was just creative accounting to make it look like it was alot of money.
I guess ACMI doesn't pay enough for them to hire someone with business sense, integrity, talent, and knows how to lead employees not make them give 2 shxts less about their company.
Alot of pilots quitting and almost all looking. No end in sight for ACMI carriers to realize each day that goes by they keep letting employees leave and the reputation of the airline continues to tank. Im sure there will be a meeting about these message board posts and instead of fixing the problem they will look the penalize the pilot group in some way.
How many are going to Kalitta for the 4th quater instead of staying at ABX for the melt down?
Guess they will have to outsource the department to India pretty soon. Check those bonus pay and D-6 allocations closely.
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