FedEx/UPS Ever lift the degree requirement?
08-25-2018, 02:01 PM
#21
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Originally Posted by navigatro
you must be pretty old.
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08-25-2018, 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by coryk
So your jumpseat ride gave you an all-access look into the culture/mindset of our almost 5000 pilot seniority list— which includes 64 year olds, 25 year olds... RJ captains and B2 pilots? And you concluded we’re just all in it for the money?
Not climbing Mt. Fuji on a 72hr Japan layover, or having dinner with 4 crews at a delicious restaurant in Paris, or going home and sleeping in your bed on a 18CH 3 day weekend layover trip. What about having the ability to be based overseas in Europe or Asia— a perk no other US airline provides, to soak in their culture and provide your family the opportunity experience a different park of the world.
I flew for a big 3 carrier before this. Most of those guys were just counting down the days until retirement. Slam-click was a familiar sound, days 1-4.
Nah. I’m just here for the money.
Not climbing Mt. Fuji on a 72hr Japan layover, or having dinner with 4 crews at a delicious restaurant in Paris, or going home and sleeping in your bed on a 18CH 3 day weekend layover trip. What about having the ability to be based overseas in Europe or Asia— a perk no other US airline provides, to soak in their culture and provide your family the opportunity experience a different park of the world.
I flew for a big 3 carrier before this. Most of those guys were just counting down the days until retirement. Slam-click was a familiar sound, days 1-4.
Nah. I’m just here for the money.
I happen to think flying boxes is the way to go for a variety of different reasons (just not at Atlas!).
To each his own.
Back to the original post, has anyone heard of FedEx dropping the 4 year requirement? I know it's not a hard requirement at UPS...
08-25-2018, 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by DC8DRIVER
Clearly he jumpseats domestically and sees only the MEM sort which probably isn't the most appealing thing to see if you're not on the inside. So try not to take offense when he said what he said, it was his opinion after all.
I happen to think flying boxes is the way to go for a variety of different reasons (just not at Atlas!).
To each his own.
Back to the original post, has anyone heard of FedEx dropping the 4 year requirement? I know it's not a hard requirement at UPS...
I happen to think flying boxes is the way to go for a variety of different reasons (just not at Atlas!).
To each his own.
Back to the original post, has anyone heard of FedEx dropping the 4 year requirement? I know it's not a hard requirement at UPS...
08-25-2018, 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by No Land 3
I've heard a four year degree counts against you if you took six years to acquire at Fed Ex. Already have my four year degree, which I decided to do in six years. Still though, I jumpseated on them often enough to see how it works over there, and it isn't very appealing. Think the vast majority are there only for the money.
FWIW I took 5 years for my degree. I had to drop out of college for a year to take an all expense paid trip to the Middle East back in 1990/91. No issues with the break in my studies.
08-25-2018, 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by coryk
So your jumpseat ride gave you an all-access look into the culture/mindset of our almost 5000 pilot seniority list— which includes 64 year olds, 25 year olds... RJ captains and B2 pilots? And you concluded we’re just all in it for the money?
Not climbing Mt. Fuji on a 72hr Japan layover, or having dinner with 4 crews at a delicious restaurant in Paris, or going home and sleeping in your bed on a 18CH 3 day weekend layover trip. What about having the ability to be based overseas in Europe or Asia— a perk no other US airline provides, to soak in their culture and provide your family the opportunity experience a different park of the world.
I flew for a big 3 carrier before this. Most of those guys were just counting down the days until retirement. Slam-click was a familiar sound, days 1-4.
Nah. I’m just here for the money.
Not climbing Mt. Fuji on a 72hr Japan layover, or having dinner with 4 crews at a delicious restaurant in Paris, or going home and sleeping in your bed on a 18CH 3 day weekend layover trip. What about having the ability to be based overseas in Europe or Asia— a perk no other US airline provides, to soak in their culture and provide your family the opportunity experience a different park of the world.
I flew for a big 3 carrier before this. Most of those guys were just counting down the days until retirement. Slam-click was a familiar sound, days 1-4.
Nah. I’m just here for the money.
And to the others, I have only seen the MEM hub night flying. I agree, I love cargo over pax flying, and get to see some pretty interesting things. Let me word my original post differently. The MEM domestic hub flying at purple does NOT appeal to me.
08-25-2018, 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by No Land 3
You don't think I am already doing the same? And I don't have to commute.
And to the others, I have only seen the MEM hub night flying. I agree, I love cargo over pax flying, and get to see some pretty interesting things. Let me word my original post differently. The MEM domestic hub flying at purple does NOT appeal to me.
And to the others, I have only seen the MEM hub night flying. I agree, I love cargo over pax flying, and get to see some pretty interesting things. Let me word my original post differently. The MEM domestic hub flying at purple does NOT appeal to me.
08-25-2018, 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by No Land 3
You don't think I am already doing the same? And I don't have to commute.
And to the others, I have only seen the MEM hub night flying. I agree, I love cargo over pax flying, and get to see some pretty interesting things. Let me word my original post differently. The MEM domestic hub flying at purple does NOT appeal to me.
And to the others, I have only seen the MEM hub night flying. I agree, I love cargo over pax flying, and get to see some pretty interesting things. Let me word my original post differently. The MEM domestic hub flying at purple does NOT appeal to me.
08-25-2018, 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by No Land 3
You don't think I am already doing the same? And I don't have to commute.
And to the others, I have only seen the MEM hub night flying. I agree, I love cargo over pax flying, and get to see some pretty interesting things. Let me word my original post differently. The MEM domestic hub flying at purple does NOT appeal to me.
And to the others, I have only seen the MEM hub night flying. I agree, I love cargo over pax flying, and get to see some pretty interesting things. Let me word my original post differently. The MEM domestic hub flying at purple does NOT appeal to me.
08-25-2018, 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by PostalAV8B
Few days ago when checking in with the AA S80 crew for permission for a ride to Memphis (given a seat in the back). First thing out of the Captain's mouth was..."FedEx, you make more money than us".
Uhhhh, yeah... about that. Maybe he was talking about the corporation as a whole, because that doesn't apply to our pilots. Sounds like both you and that Captain are still thinking lost decade and legacy bankruptcy contracts. According to the profile here on APC, AA's 757 12-year Captains are making $30/hour more than ours. Their 777 Captain rates are $36/hour higher.Still a great job, but we gave up the top spot in pay a while ago and since most of our peers will already be on a follow-on contract by the time we sign our next, we ain't getting that back any time soon.
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