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cargowarrior 08-31-2018 11:38 AM

At the rate of non-pilots leaving we won’t have to strike the office staff will put it out of business before we get the chance too.

qiutong 08-31-2018 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by woog315 (Post 2665858)
Well ABX pilots opted to go on strike, they had to know there would be consequences. That has nothing to do with hating pilots, just consequences of ABX's choices as a pilot group.

The consequences of the strike, were that the status quo was reestablished, and that should have been it. The strike was over, and JH lost. The fact that he then chose to stunt any growth of an airline, staffed with some of the industries more competent and experienced pilots, to staff ATI with less competent and lesser experienced pilots, I feel does show a bias toward ABX. He’s holding a grudge, and any thinking person can see that.

C7fr8dog 09-04-2018 05:14 AM

Strike
 
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Originally Posted by qiutong (Post 2665954)
The consequences of the strike, were that the status quo was reestablished, and that should have been it. The strike was over, and JH lost. The fact that he then chose to stunt any growth of an airline, staffed with some of the industries more competent and experienced pilots, to staff ATI with less competent and lesser experienced pilots, I feel does show a bias toward ABX. He’s holding a grudge, and any thinking person can see that.

The fact is ABX Pilots didn't go on STRIKE because they were treated so well. Management has battled the Teamsters and pilots since the union was first established. It's here for a reason and it's going to stay. Along with that if pushed again we will strike again. We aren't afraid.

gumpscheck 09-04-2018 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by C7fr8dog (Post 2667873)
The fact is ABX Pilots didn't go on STRIKE because they were treated so well. Management has battled the Teamsters and pilots since the union was first established. It's here for a reason and it's going to stay. Along with that if pushed again we will strike again. We aren't afraid.

Right On Bro!!

Hang10 09-04-2018 04:57 PM

Am Ready To walk the Line! I understand Soaper was a bad crew scheduler to! And just keeps getting worse! Ask Joe-if I did my job like Soaper! Would I get a lot of stock options? How does the Board let this happen? Somebody has to be help responsible for the losses!

Industry Strnd 09-05-2018 10:15 AM

I wonder who is actually in charge? Tail wagging the dog here?

JustOvIt 09-09-2018 04:52 AM

Here's the folks on the Board ATSG
 
Clearly they are just as clueless as Soapy

Rademacher
Baudouin
John's
Peterson
Teets
Vorholt
Hete

motorclutch 09-09-2018 09:16 AM

Keep in mind: the chairman of the board, “Regional Randy” is Soapys sea daddy. He’s the one responsible for bringing havoc to ABX.

C7fr8dog 09-09-2018 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by motorclutch (Post 2671020)
Keep in mind: the chairman of the board, “Regional Randy” is Soapys sea daddy. He’s the one responsible for bringing havoc to ABX.

ONLY ABX/ATSG management could make an airline so miserable that nobody cares anymore what happens. At least we aren’t afraid of loosing our jobs now. In 2009 we gave 40% concessions. Every employee group was rewarded except the pilots. Management will try to have everyone believe that the strike was flight crews fault but even history will show you that happy employees do NOT strike. Employees that are treated well do not strike.
ATSG has done the complete opposite. They bought ATI with our money to use against us. They under staffed the airline on purpose so that our brothers dropped off the list and new hires could come in.
They tried with holding vacations. They agreed to a 40% concessionary contract in 2009 and now just want more even though it was our frozen pension that allowed the survival of ABX.
Now ATSG is profitable and refuses to even acknowledge us. They like to play that we are simply an ACMI carrier now. Why would anyone want to work for an ACMI carrier. Clearly it’s never anyone’s first choice. Now even in the ACMI world why would anyone want to work for an ACMI that has management that has a LONG history of a Lorenzo type management practices?? An ACMI where upgrades take 20+ years. An ACMI where there is NEGATIVE growth. An ACMI where the parent company leases your assets directly to your competition. An ACMI that quite frankly is not even prepared to work with the customers it has.
ABX is an airline that has a proven failed management team at the helm.
ABX AIR is now the Tintantic. Management is the poorly redesigned hull that used short cuts due to cost. We the pilots at ABX are the passengers. There is nothing we can do to save this ship. It’s all up to people with a higher pay grade than mine.
#ATSG #ABX AIR

Jurassic Jet 09-09-2018 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by C7fr8dog (Post 2671105)
ABX AIR is now the Titanic.

I think that is coming home to roost with most anyone that is looking for a job. I've heard only 1 person showed up for class last week. The word is out on this place. The failure of ABX will lie directly at the feet of Soapy. Of course, he is very familiar with being at the helm of failed airlines. He has somewhat of a history of it.

#ComairPartDeux


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