ABX Interview - Is it worth it?
#22
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2018
Posts: 168
It's been in mediation for several years. There is no end in sight. Management is try to take away work rules and offering nothing significant. ATSG just bought Omni to wipsaw yet another carrier. K4 is the place to go new cba and no wipsaw.
#24
Line Holder
Joined APC: Nov 2013
Posts: 71
The Railroad Labor Act is a farce and should be replaced yesterday. Pilots should contact their congress member and demand action. It's almost 2019 and for pilot labor / employment mediation and collective bargaining to be held hostage by rules that are out of date and irrelevant by way of the RLA is beyond a joke.
#26
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Joined APC: Apr 2007
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No time limit and Federal Judges are perfectly content to let it drone on and on in favor of businesses. The RLA is a toothless dog. In most if not all disputes found in favor of the pilots....the company is simply told to stop doing that! Of course they go right back and do it again. There needs to be punitive damages or it will never change.
#27
Lead Guitar & Vocals
Joined APC: Sep 2014
Posts: 146
The Railroad Labor Act is a farce and should be replaced yesterday. Pilots should contact their congress member and demand action. It's almost 2019 and for pilot labor / employment mediation and collective bargaining to be held hostage by rules that are out of date and irrelevant by way of the RLA is beyond a joke.
1926?? Out of date? Yes.
It would be very difficult to get Congress to do any action. Favors business(transportation) too much.
I do agree though, the rules need to be amended.
1926??
#28
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Joined APC: Jul 2008
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While I understand what you're saying, I think you've misidentified the purpose of the RLA. The RLA isn't in place to ensure that transportation workers get a fair contract in a reasonable amount of time.
The purpose of the RLA is to prevent disruptions in the nation's transportation systems. At that purpose, it is far from toothless. The RLA is quite effective at preventing strikes and lockouts. The protracted negotiation process is exactly what the RLA was intended to produce.
The purpose of the RLA is to prevent disruptions in the nation's transportation systems. At that purpose, it is far from toothless. The RLA is quite effective at preventing strikes and lockouts. The protracted negotiation process is exactly what the RLA was intended to produce.
#29
While I understand what you're saying, I think you've misidentified the purpose of the RLA. The RLA isn't in place to ensure that transportation workers get a fair contract in a reasonable amount of time.
The purpose of the RLA is to prevent disruptions in the nation's transportation systems. At that purpose, it is far from toothless. The RLA is quite effective at preventing strikes and lockouts. The protracted negotiation process is exactly what the RLA was intended to produce.
The purpose of the RLA is to prevent disruptions in the nation's transportation systems. At that purpose, it is far from toothless. The RLA is quite effective at preventing strikes and lockouts. The protracted negotiation process is exactly what the RLA was intended to produce.
Airlines are totally different. They don't own the sky. If Delta goes on strike tomorrow Atlanta doesn't lose all air service. Will Atlanta or the nations commerce be negatively impacted? Certainly. But if the strike goes on long enough other airlines will add service and in the long term there will be no change in the economy. Why should airline employees be treated any differently than say truckers. I would submit that a nationwide trucker strike would be more damaging to the national economy than an airline strike. How about health care. Many local hospitals are now owned by Nationwide companies like Humana or Adventist. Why don't they have a similar act?
The RLA is essentially indentured servitude for airline employees. (especially pilots, mechanics and flight attendants) Because of our seniority system it is virtually impossible for senior employees to consider changing employers. We are approaching the 100th anniversary of this law. It's time for it to go.
#30
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Joined APC: Jul 2008
Posts: 854
I don't think the hyperbole is helpful.
I used to think the same thing and that thinking kept me at ABX for over twelve years. I'm now on my sixth airline and have never done better. I should have left ABX long before the 2009 furlough that finally kicked me out.
Then contact your representatives. They are the only ones who can change it.
Because of our seniority system it is virtually impossible for senior employees to consider changing employers.
It's time for it to go.
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