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Freightpuppy 04-12-2007 09:12 PM

Question for military pilots
 
I may be wrong but don't most companies have you multiply your time by 1.3? Why is that?

hyperone 04-12-2007 09:18 PM

Most companies have military guys add .3 hours to each sortie, not multiply their time by 1.3. This is because the military only logs flight time from takeoff to landing and does not include the taxi out or in as part of the block time.

L'il J.Seinfeld 04-12-2007 11:03 PM


Originally Posted by Freightpuppy (Post 148604)
I may be wrong but don't most companies have you multiply your time by 1.3? Why is that?


It's really not as big of a deal as you may think. I had about 500 sorties as a tanker pilot. 500 X .3 = 150 hours. Fighter pilots fly a whole lot more sorties, but it'd be hard for them to have more than 500 hours added due to the conversion. On a training sortie we usually do a thorough debrief of 30 minutes also.

I have a new friend with 3700 hours in the F-16. That's probably around 1500 sorties, which is another 450 hours.

Qpilot 04-13-2007 04:28 AM

I've been in the USAF for 20 years and have 2165 sorties(C-21, C-141, C-17). That's 649.5 hours! That's enough to get me back over 5000 after I take out my other time. I'm glad that most companies allow a conversion factor.

Jetjok 04-13-2007 05:12 AM


Originally Posted by L'il J.Seinfeld (Post 148632)
It's really not as big of a deal as you may think. I had about 500 sorties as a tanker pilot. 500 X .3 = 150 hours. Fighter pilots fly a whole lot more sorties, but it'd be hard for them to have more than 500 hours added due to the conversion. On a training sortie we usually do a thorough debrief of 30 minutes also.

I have a new friend with 3700 hours in the F-16. That's probably around 1500 sorties, which is another 450 hours.

When I was in the fighter business, we also had long and involved debriefs, sometimes taking upwards of 5 to 10 minutes. After all, we had to figure out who won all the money, and at 25 cents a bomb and 50 cents for strafe, we're talking BIG money.:D However, I don't know anyone who added that debrief time to their total time and then added .3 for each sortie. I always thought it was block to block, plus the multiplier, but maybe they do things differently in AMC (Air Mobility Command.):rolleyes:

Slice 04-13-2007 05:24 AM

Maybe they debrief in the jet with the engines running since they have all that extra JP-8...:confused:

TipTip35 04-13-2007 07:22 AM

FWIW, I think FedEx only gives .2 hr per sortie. From what I've heard JetBlue does do a whole 1.3 for all of your time. Thats a pretty big boost...

Slice 04-13-2007 07:30 AM

Not a math major but 1000 x 1.3 = 1300
1000 x .3 = 300
300 + 1000 = 1300

Same result...pretty sure they tell you to mult your time by 1.3, not add 1.3 to your time...

Purple F/O 04-13-2007 07:48 AM


Originally Posted by Slice (Post 148775)
Not a math major but 1000 x 1.3 = 1300
1000 x .3 = 300
300 + 1000 = 1300

Same result...pretty sure they tell you to mult your time by 1.3, not add 1.3 to your time...

Different companies have different formulas, both of the above are used. It's mostly to account for losing the block to block times, since the mil only logs t/o to land. Others think it's also to account for the quality of time, but I think that's just us patting ourselves on the back.

flyfish 04-13-2007 07:52 AM


Originally Posted by Slice (Post 148775)
Not a math major but 1000 x 1.3 = 1300
1000 x .3 = 300
300 + 1000 = 1300

Same result...pretty sure they tell you to mult your time by 1.3, not add 1.3 to your time...

600 sorties X .3 = 180
2500hrs X 1.3 = 3250
2500 + 180 = 2680
difference of 570 hrs...

I choose option "A" for 3250 Alex!


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