Originally Posted by SaltyDog
(Post 2733099)
How many of the under 3 year pilots are trained and in pay status as Captain?
Thx |
Originally Posted by Speakitnow
(Post 2732928)
I have just worked at both Airlines. Current projection for UPS first upgrade will be 6-7 years and FedEx First wide-body upgrade approximately 8 years.
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Originally Posted by SaltyDog
(Post 2733099)
How many of the under 3 year pilots are trained and in pay status as Captain?
Thx |
Thanks for the info.
Good year to all :) |
Originally Posted by Max7
(Post 2773396)
just don't want to stay in regional trying to move up...
any help appreciate What are your stats and what is your ultimate goal? |
Originally Posted by Max7
(Post 2773396)
hello, just a quick question, need your help and some suggestions,,,,
do you guys think moving from Skywest Airlines to ATLAS, Would be a good move? I really don't mined night flying or be away from home for 17days, but it looks like there is lot of hidden fees will come off your paycheck, recently they contact me and now even they providing confirmed ticket with Hotel for my interview just don't want to stay in regional trying to move up... any help appreciate First, you absolutely must do your research about the current pay and work rules in force today. I cannot count how many times people come from the regionals and then complain about the work rules here, saying they are better in the regionals. If you come and find yourself unpleasantly surprised that's YOUR fault, and of course also the fault of the recruiters who probably misled, or flat out lied to you during the recruitment process. Second, realize that the company and the union are in a full blown, knock down drag out, gutter fight. Third, there is a lot of short to medium term uncertainty with the direction of the company, given the influence of Amazon, DHL and the latest crash. You need to be prepared for ANY consequence those three factors may impose on the operation. If you can handle the low pay, horrible work rules and turbulent (to put it mildly) work environment then come on over, but I highly recommend you keep some other apps updated just in case it doesn't turn out to be your cup of tea. |
Originally Posted by zerozero
(Post 2773555)
I'm not going to tell you what to do, but I will give you some advice.
First, you absolutely must do your research about the current pay and work rules in force today. I cannot count how many times people come from the regionals and then complain about the work rules here, saying they are better in the regionals. If you come and find yourself unpleasantly surprised that's YOUR fault, and of course also the fault of the recruiters who probably misled, or flat out lied to you during the recruitment process. Second, realize that the company and the union are in a full blown, knock down drag out, gutter fight. Third, there is a lot of short to medium term uncertainty with the direction of the company, given the influence of Amazon, DHL and the latest crash. You need to be prepared for ANY consequence those three factors may impose on the operation. If you can handle the low pay, horrible work rules and turbulent (to put it mildly) work environment then come on over, but I highly recommend you keep some other apps updated just in case it doesn't turn out to be your cup of tea. |
Originally Posted by JonnyKnoxville
(Post 2691459)
The truck driver mentality is exactly why most of the Atlas guys were thinking good riddance when you left our union. If you somehow do not see or believe that ATSG, Atlas/Southern, and Kalitta are not in direct competition with UPS and FedEx, then I think we should all be telling you to get a grip.
Whether you realize it or not, Amazon and DHL are using our airlines to go after UPS and FedEx similar to how Southwest went after domestic market share of American, Delta, and United throughout the 1980s and 1990s. If you still don't believe it, I have a sort facility being built in CVG bigger than FedEx in MEM and UPS in SDF combined to sell you. The ABX and Atlas/Southern pilots do not find it acceptable to allow management to exploit our cheap labor in order to take away high-paying quality jobs at FedEx and UPS. We will continue to fight for industry standard, not just truck driver standard. While I commend your sentiment regarding the jobs at FedEx and UPS, I have to question the rest of your post. How in the world is Amazon's CVG sort facility going to rival FedEx's and UPS's -- COMBINED? From what I've read the facility's capability is going to be less than FedEx's. On peak nights FedEx has 150 airplanes flying through the sort and that doesn't include our feeder folks. Even the Indy Hub, which is currently 2.5 million square feet, is scheduled for a $1.5B expansion this year -- the same amount Amazon is spending in CVG. While I agree Amazon is rapidly expanding their logistics capability, I think your comment is greatly exaggerated. Please prove me wrong if I am mistaken. Second, with reference to Southwest, how is Amazon and DHL "southwesting" FedEx and UPS? |
Originally Posted by PurpleToolBox
(Post 2775235)
Second, with reference to Southwest, how is Amazon and DHL "southwesting" FedEx and UPS?
Don’t pay any attention to him. He’s been drinking the Kool Aid. |
Originally Posted by gumpscheck
(Post 2775550)
By underpaying and overworking their pilots.
Don’t pay any attention to him. He’s been drinking the Kool Aid. |
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