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Originally Posted by SGALLO
(Post 2700176)
Any idea when the window will re-open?
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Originally Posted by DC8DRIVER
(Post 2699734)
Atlas won't have a new contract.
We will have an amalgamated contract forced down our throats due to the sloppy wording of our current contract. Nobody here is happy. Kalitta. 100%. Go for K4. The current disaster happening at Atlas is something you don't want to get involved with. It's Money out of your pocket and into our leaderships pocket and Atlas managements bonus program. |
I'm at Atlas pilot. We know how contracts stack-up today. We don't know how they'll stack up tomorrow. Kalitta is where it's at.
That said, everything we hear about Atlas today is what we heard about K4 a few years ago. At that time people were leaving K4 to come to Atlas. I think it's pretty likely that we'll be compensated more than Kalitta in the future. Kalitta and Atlas will both pay less than FedEx or UPS for the foreseeable future, so neither place will be a career destination. This is really unfortunate because I like what I do and the people I work with. If you're thinking you'll be in and out in less than five years, I'd go for the best quality of life and fastest pathway to the left seat. I'd be financially and psychologically prepared for that five-year plan to mushroom out to ten+ years if there's a recession, major industry shake-up, etc. |
That’s really along the lines of what I’m thinking. Sounds like solid advice. Thank you!
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Kalitta vs Atlas? Really? Like do you actually read these boards? Is this like thread generation because you have nothing better to do with your time? This is what they call "churning" in the financial world.
History: Atlas was better than Kalitta, Southern was better than Kalitta at one point in time. Things change - always. Keep up with the changes. Currently: Kalitta is better than Atlas. Connie signed a contract, Atlas will NEVER sign a contract. There was negotiation between Connie and the pilots. There is NO negotiation with Atlas management and the pilots. Atlas sued their pilots. What more needs to be said. Southern is below the bilge pump level. Things there are more dismal since being bought Atlas than they have ever been. |
Originally Posted by Diesel8
(Post 2700500)
Kalitta vs Atlas? Really? Like do you actually read these boards? Is this like thread generation because you have nothing better to do with your time? This is what they call "churning" in the financial world.
History: Atlas was better than Kalitta, Southern was better than Kalitta at one point in time. Things change - always. Keep up with the changes. Currently: Kalitta is better than Atlas. Connie signed a contract, Atlas will NEVER sign a contract. There was negotiation between Connie and the pilots. There is NO negotiation with Atlas management and the pilots. Atlas sued their pilots. What more needs to be said. Southern is below the bilge pump level. Things there are more dismal since being bought Atlas than they have ever been. |
Originally Posted by Elevation
(Post 2700481)
Kalitta and Atlas will both pay less than FedEx or UPS for the foreseeable future, so neither place will be a career destination.
If the above is true, then Atlas/Polar/Southern will shrink in size, as their pilot manning goes negative. If it gets bad enough, Captains will be displaced back to the right seat. If you're thinking you'll be in and out in less than five years, I'd go for the best quality of life and fastest pathway to the left seat. I'd be financially and psychologically prepared for that five-year plan to mushroom out to ten+ years if there's a recession, major industry shake-up, etc. EXCELLENT advice!!! |
Neither. FedEx or UPS
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Originally Posted by boeingdvr
(Post 2700748)
Neither. FedEx or UPS
Maybe I am stupid, but I am happy. |
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