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goinaround 11-02-2018 04:26 PM


Originally Posted by nitefr8dog (Post 2701932)
Getting what your worth and not settling is enough. What you think is enough may not be near enough for your family who spent half their lives without you. Not very many pilots make it past 75 after retiring...the money and retirement you could have made at a better airline would come in real handy for the ones you leave behind once you tip over. It's not all about money as much getting paid what you are worth. Some people in this industry do not think they are worth as much. I am happy making lots of money. It's like fun..never to much.

You making this argument as an ABX pilot is a little bit....ironic...to this particular thread. Don't you think?

No Land 3 11-02-2018 04:45 PM

Being happy is #1.

maxjet 11-02-2018 04:46 PM


Originally Posted by nitefr8dog (Post 2701900)
Why in world would you be sorry someone planned ahead and does not need to sponge off the goverment. I am also am someone getting ready to retire...thankfully I have a job with a great income and have a retirement and will not be working a part time job or selling real estate when it happens. Just because you retire does not mean you should have to move into a trailer. Invest invest invest then retire and relax....isn't that the way it's supposed to work. I have no problem with someone retiring without a retirement and planning on SSI or moving in with their kids. It's just not for me.

I see no difference in our view points. Why do you? The gym I go to has people in their 80’s working out who are clear eyed and very clear minded. Then there are some people who are in their mid to late 60’s and are in terrible condition. The common theme repeated by them is that they wish they had lived less stressful and more happy lives with less money. They very much regret what they have done to themselves

nitefr8dog 11-02-2018 04:58 PM


Originally Posted by goinaround (Post 2701937)
You making this argument as an ABX pilot is a little bit....ironic...to this particular thread. Don't you think?

The thread is K4 or Atlas..1 pays ok with a new contract. The other pays simular to comuter airline.
I have a retirement.
Also fantastic disability.
Want to compare W2s ...?

goinaround 11-02-2018 05:03 PM


Originally Posted by nitefr8dog (Post 2701965)
The thread is K4 or Atlas..1 pays ok with a new contract. The other pays simular to comuter airline.
I have a retirement.
Also fantastic disability.
Want to compare W2s ...?

Well I left ABX for K4.....the comparison is complete. Both in pay and QOL. Sounds like you don't need a contract.....

Fillmore Slim 11-02-2018 05:06 PM


Originally Posted by Rolloutflare (Post 2701936)
All that retirement money has one thing in common. Someone has a plan to get as much of it away from you, legally and who cares about ethics.

This is probably the most important sentence ever written on these boards (Foot Stomp). Educate yourself on "stop limit sell orders" for all your 401K holdings, so maybe you'll have a chance once the crooks come for your retirement.

Slim

nitefr8dog 11-02-2018 05:41 PM


Originally Posted by goinaround (Post 2701967)
Well I left ABX for K4.....the comparison is complete. Both in pay and QOL. Sounds like you don't need a contract.....

I could careless....this company refuses to figure out how to staff an airline which means work the same days get extra pay. Fine by me.

goinaround 11-02-2018 05:51 PM


Originally Posted by nitefr8dog (Post 2701992)
I could careless....this company refuses to figure out how to staff an airline which means work the same days get extra pay. Fine by me.

Or work waaaaaay more days and get a very little extra pay. After 3 years on reserve making no extra pay......no thanks. Good for you having 29 years of seniority. I did care.

nitefr8dog 11-02-2018 05:51 PM


Originally Posted by Fillmore Slim (Post 2701969)
This is probably the most important sentence ever written on these boards (Foot Stomp). Educate yourself on "stop limit sell orders" for all your 401K holdings, so maybe you'll have a chance once the crooks come for your retirement.

Slim

The laws have changed significantly since the Eastern, Delta, United days. The PBGC now grabs assets and Bankruptcy courts require a plan to reorganize without stealing retirement funds. Just like your 401k, profit sharing....nothing is guaranteed....except your bottom sock drawer.

nitefr8dog 11-02-2018 05:52 PM


Originally Posted by goinaround (Post 2701995)
Or work waaaaaay more days and get a very little extra pay. After 3 years on reserve making no extra pay......no thanks. Good for you having 29 years of seniority. I did care.

Care about things you can change.
They are not smart enough to make this change. I cannot...nor am I willing to lose sleep over waiting for a new contract. We are dealing with complete idiots.


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