Atlas / Southern
05-24-2020, 04:38 PM
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And if correct regarding the Polar certificate - Atlas acquired/Needed the Polar certificate for more of the very profitable Asia routes and were looked more favorably upon than Atlas in the Far East. Polar is primarily DHL and 49% owned by them if I am not mistaken. Definitely certificates to had/sold out there, but the Polar/Atlas is a little more tricky I think. Money talks of course!
05-25-2020, 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by WhiteMorpheus
I don't think any of the other ACMIs have spare operating certificates laying around like AAWW does. Could management cash out by selling the Polar or Southern certificate to AMZN?
05-25-2020, 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by nitefr8dog
Well....ATSG has 3. Two of which already have Amazon leased aircraft on them...like 35 ish. Besides what in the world does Amazon care about a company or certificate cost? Running leased aircraft and not owning a company or pilot group is certainly less stressful. If you dont like a companies performance, you just move their aircraft to another company...as we have seen.
05-26-2020, 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by nitefr8dog
Well....ATSG has 3. Two of which already have Amazon leased aircraft on them...like 35 ish. Besides what in the world does Amazon care about a company or certificate cost? Running leased aircraft and not owning a company or pilot group is certainly less stressful. If you dont like a companies performance, you just move their aircraft to another company...as we have seen.
Hella.
05-26-2020, 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by nitefr8dog
Exactly! Which is why Amazon won't own any.
05-27-2020, 03:10 AM
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Originally Posted by CRJJ
Nitefr8dog, I read before your opinion and experience with dhl and their flying. What's your opinion about AMZ? Same animal?
I reckon there are a lot of applicants now lol.
05-27-2020, 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by nitefr8dog
Same pattern. We are seeing it right now. More contract carriers all the time. Whoever is low bidder becomes the the new favorite and the low water mark.
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