Atlas / Southern
10-30-2019, 09:21 AM
#451
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Joined APC: Aug 2019
Posts: 82
Originally Posted by Screwed
HELL NO !
Either they give us a really good CBA or let this POS airline burn to the ground. With each passing day my hatred for the senior management of this ****hole grows.
Management blames labor unrest for their pathetic performance. If anything the pilots have been neutered by the courts and arbi-traitors.
They will see what real labor unrest is if they impose an arbi-traitor CBA on us.
Either they give us a really good CBA or let this POS airline burn to the ground. With each passing day my hatred for the senior management of this ****hole grows.
Management blames labor unrest for their pathetic performance. If anything the pilots have been neutered by the courts and arbi-traitors.
They will see what real labor unrest is if they impose an arbi-traitor CBA on us.
10-30-2019, 04:38 PM
#452
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Joined APC: Jan 2013
Position: Captain
Posts: 130
Continuing zero progress at the usual 3 days of negotiations per month. However a new lawsuit announced by our CEO against the pilot group today after 3rd qtr earnings miss of over 70% and a beat down by the analysts on the earnings call. They actually waited a whole 2 hours after the call to announce the lawsuit to compel the Teamsters to fork over a combined seniority list immediately. Don’t worry about established seniority integration law. Allegheny Mohawk anyone? Naw, just hand it over so we can start the 9 month pretend negotiate period so we can shove another bottom of the industry CBA down your throats and gut your scope even more in arbitration.
They actually said they want to negotiate scope last...so the clock will run out and that goes to Arbitration. Like last time the arbitrator will give the company everything they want, which will be sure to eliminate all remaining job protections for the pilots.
By the time “negotiations” roll around again a decade from now most or all of the aircraft will have been dry leased to Titan, Kalitta, ATI. No more pesky pilot group to deal with.
Three classes of 24 each planned in the next two months to backfill all the resignations to airlines that actually pay a professional wage. Fresh furlough bait is always welcome.
They actually said they want to negotiate scope last...so the clock will run out and that goes to Arbitration. Like last time the arbitrator will give the company everything they want, which will be sure to eliminate all remaining job protections for the pilots.
By the time “negotiations” roll around again a decade from now most or all of the aircraft will have been dry leased to Titan, Kalitta, ATI. No more pesky pilot group to deal with.
Three classes of 24 each planned in the next two months to backfill all the resignations to airlines that actually pay a professional wage. Fresh furlough bait is always welcome.
10-30-2019, 08:31 PM
#453
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Joined APC: Jun 2014
Posts: 1,236
Originally Posted by Turbine1
Continuing zero progress at the usual 3 days of negotiations per month. However a new lawsuit announced by our CEO against the pilot group today after 3rd qtr earnings miss of over 70% and a beat down by the analysts on the earnings call. They actually waited a whole 2 hours after the call to announce the lawsuit to compel the Teamsters to fork over a combined seniority list immediately. Don’t worry about established seniority integration law. Allegheny Mohawk anyone? Naw, just hand it over so we can start the 9 month pretend negotiate period so we can shove another bottom of the industry CBA down your throats and gut your scope even more in arbitration.
They actually said they want to negotiate scope last...so the clock will run out and that goes to Arbitration. Like last time the arbitrator will give the company everything they want, which will be sure to eliminate all remaining job protections for the pilots.
By the time “negotiations” roll around again a decade from now most or all of the aircraft will have been dry leased to Titan, Kalitta, ATI. No more pesky pilot group to deal with.
Three classes of 24 each planned in the next two months to backfill all the resignations to airlines that actually pay a professional wage. Fresh furlough bait is always welcome.
They actually said they want to negotiate scope last...so the clock will run out and that goes to Arbitration. Like last time the arbitrator will give the company everything they want, which will be sure to eliminate all remaining job protections for the pilots.
By the time “negotiations” roll around again a decade from now most or all of the aircraft will have been dry leased to Titan, Kalitta, ATI. No more pesky pilot group to deal with.
Three classes of 24 each planned in the next two months to backfill all the resignations to airlines that actually pay a professional wage. Fresh furlough bait is always welcome.
11-06-2019, 10:16 AM
#457
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Joined APC: Sep 2015
Posts: 666
Originally Posted by MysteriousMrX
Yes. And also aware of hearing they were getting more.. so.... which is it?
11-06-2019, 10:26 AM
#458
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Joined APC: Jun 2014
Posts: 1,236
Originally Posted by RyeMex
There are no new aircraft on the horizon for us. However, there are pretty substantiated rumors that we will be losing more aircraft.
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