Go Back   Airline Pilot Central Forums - Find your next job as a Pilot > >
Cargo Part 121 cargo airlines
 

Welcome to Airline Pilot Forums - Connect and get the inside scoop on Airline Companies

If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ. Join our community today and start interacting with existing members. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free.


User Tag List

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 01-13-2019, 07:49 PM   #51  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Sep 2009
Posts: 488
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by JackStraw View Post
At Atlas, we do it cheaper than the other guys... and were happy to do it! Its just a job to us!
I am not sure if that is sarcasm or not and apologize in advance if it is but we most certainly are not happy to do it cheaper than the other guys. We are some of the lowest paid pilots flying airliners in the United States right now and it is downright embarrassing.
JonnyKnoxville is offline  
Old 01-14-2019, 04:28 AM   #52  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Nov 2017
Position: Wichita
Posts: 289
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by JonnyKnoxville View Post
I am not sure if that is sarcasm or not and apologize in advance if it is but we most certainly are not happy to do it cheaper than the other guys. We are some of the lowest paid pilots flying airliners in the United States right now and it is downright embarrassing.
Quote:
Originally Posted by WhipWhitaker View Post
To quote another disgruntled employee, Allegiant is hiring. Do the rest of us a favor and quit, go to your regional of choice, enjoy that bonus and quality of life. This place owns so much real estate inside youre head its pathetic, its just a job. Ill be enjoying my month off...22 days more in a row than I ever got off at my regional.
It was sarcasm.

But...

Allegiant IS hiring.
JackStraw is offline  
Old 01-14-2019, 05:25 AM   #53  
Gets Weekends Off
 
DC8DRIVER's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Apr 2007
Position: 747
Posts: 1,176
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by WhipWhitaker View Post
To quote another disgruntled employee, Allegiant is hiring. Do the rest of us a favor and quit, go to your regional of choice, enjoy that bonus and quality of life. This place owns so much real estate inside youre head its pathetic, its just a job. Ill be enjoying my month off...22 days more in a row than I ever got off at my regional.
Oldest and weakest retort in the book ... "why don't you just quit / go someplace else?"

Some of us choose to stay and fight for a better contract. Unfortunately, there are a few entitled "pilots" who like to ride coattails. They climb on the shoulders of those who make the best parts of the job available to them so theyll have something to crow about. No need to thank us, though (not that any thanks are expected). We understand that there will always be the 1% who do nothing to better the working conditions here and only take advantage of the efforts, sacrifices, opportunities, and successes that the group has made for your benefit.

None-the-less, you are welcome.

And on one point, you are right. This place does take up real estate in our heads as we work towards a better contract because improving the conditions here is vitally important to us just as it was to those who came before us and made the few gains that you so loudly brag about today.

One day (unless Flynn and co. decide to cash out and sell Atlas for body parts), Atlas will have a great contract. Probably not during my career here, though. But I will be able to live with myself knowing that I had some small part in making this place better for those who follow my path, just as those who came before me paid it forward so I could enjoy the few gains that exist today.

This will only be accomplished, though, by an honest understanding of where Atlas is in regards to labor relations within the industry, and where we should be.

So when guys come on line and brag about how good Atlas is in relation to anything other than our industry peers is counterproductive to everyone - including yourself, whether or not you even realize it - because no gains have ever been made by pilots who look backwards at their entry level jobs as a measure of where they should be today or tomorrow.

Like most pilots, my first job in aviation involved working with no insurance, no retirement, no benefits, no job protections, no pay protections, under hazardous conditions at all hours of the day and night with no provisions for rest, food, or protections from the elements. Is Atlas a step up from there? Obviously! Atlas is better by 1000%! But should I compare that lousy job to Atlas? Or should I look at an airline that has conditions that far exceed those at Atlas for guidance when it comes to working towards a better contract?

Now, dont get me wrong; I love flying I do and the people I fly with. I have a great time when I'm at work. And a huge part of my outlook and optimism comes from knowing that I am part of the vast majority of Atlas pilots (even those who know they are here only temporarily) who have a clear view of where we Atlas pilots stand and what incredible potential there is here for a great contract. But, as Richard Bach once wrote, You are never given a wish without also being given the power to make it true. You may have to work for it, however.

The work toward a common goal like that is rewarding in a way that you will probably never know. So keep those rose colored glasses on, keep updating your FedEx application, and try not to hinder the rest of us while we work to give you even more to brag about while you are here.

OK?
DC8DRIVER is offline  
Old 01-15-2019, 03:48 PM   #54  
On Reserve
 
Joined APC: May 2018
Posts: 10
Default Interview

Good evening everyone,

I have an interview with Southern for the 737 FO position. They sent me an email with an example of the schedule for the 18 on 12 off and the pay scale as well. I just had a few questions that I was hoping some of you could answer. Do any of you currently fly the 737? How much flying do you usually fly each month. The recruiter already warned me of the 36 hour YWG overnight but I was wondering what the rest of the flying is like. Is it all flying on the back end of the clock? Do you ever overnight back in CVG or is that just in and out.

Thank you for your help.
SetVap is offline  
Old 01-15-2019, 04:33 PM   #55  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Nov 2017
Position: Wichita
Posts: 289
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SetVap View Post
Good evening everyone,

I have an interview with Southern for the 737 FO position. They sent me an email with an example of the schedule for the 18 on 12 off and the pay scale as well. I just had a few questions that I was hoping some of you could answer. Do any of you currently fly the 737? How much flying do you usually fly each month. The recruiter already warned me of the 36 hour YWG overnight but I was wondering what the rest of the flying is like. Is it all flying on the back end of the clock? Do you ever overnight back in CVG or is that just in and out.

Thank you for your help.
Showing interest in either Southern or Atlas, but especially Southern, demonstrates extremely bad judgement on your part. -10 points.

Hope this helped.
JackStraw is offline  
Old 01-15-2019, 04:43 PM   #56  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Apr 2015
Posts: 173
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SetVap View Post
Good evening everyone,

I have an interview with Southern for the 737 FO position. They sent me an email with an example of the schedule for the 18 on 12 off and the pay scale as well. I just had a few questions that I was hoping some of you could answer. Do any of you currently fly the 737? How much flying do you usually fly each month. The recruiter already warned me of the 36 hour YWG overnight but I was wondering what the rest of the flying is like. Is it all flying on the back end of the clock? Do you ever overnight back in CVG or is that just in and out.

Thank you for your help.
Dawg, buddy.... friend.... you'll see a lot of vitriol and bile on these forums- sometimes deserved sometimes not- often exaggerated and overly dramatic, but I can tell you... do not go to Southern. There are jobs everywhere- do not go to Southern. I repeat: Do not go to Southern. Cross it off your list.
woog315 is offline  
Old 01-15-2019, 05:56 PM   #57  
Line Holder
 
CaptDave's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Feb 2018
Position: Upright, 32A
Posts: 90
Default

Lemme just axe you a question....
CaptDave is offline  
Old 01-16-2019, 01:45 AM   #58  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Sep 2015
Posts: 241
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SetVap View Post
Good evening everyone,

I have an interview with Southern for the 737 FO position. They sent me an email with an example of the schedule for the 18 on 12 off and the pay scale as well. I just had a few questions that I was hoping some of you could answer. Do any of you currently fly the 737? How much flying do you usually fly each month. The recruiter already warned me of the 36 hour YWG overnight but I was wondering what the rest of the flying is like. Is it all flying on the back end of the clock? Do you ever overnight back in CVG or is that just in and out.

Thank you for your help.
Did they mention the fact that you wont see a pay raise for 4 years?
RyeMex is offline  
Old 01-16-2019, 05:40 AM   #59  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Feb 2012
Position: leaning forward
Posts: 142
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by RyeMex View Post
Did they mention the fact that you wont see a pay raise for 4 years?

^^^^THIS^^^^
thesandbox is offline  
Old 01-16-2019, 06:17 AM   #60  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Feb 2017
Posts: 1,596
Default

I can't speak for any of it, but if you are low time and simply want a 737 type to pad your resume? Those that know, head their advice.
No Land 3 is offline  
 
 
 

 
Closed Thread
 



Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Related Topics
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Marine Corps raising Pilot Retention Bonuses AirBear Military 34 07-23-2018 07:39 PM
Orange Air... alphonso1 Charter 142 05-01-2017 08:29 PM
PRIA questions 321SeeYa Career Questions 14 03-18-2014 04:04 PM
Southern Air emerges from Chapter 11 Sata 4000 RP Cargo 3 04-17-2013 07:35 AM
Direct Air files for bankruptcy trent890 Charter 17 04-15-2012 06:39 AM


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 12:37 AM.


vBulletin® v3.9.3.5, Copyright ©2000-2019, MH Sub I, LLC dba vBulletin
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.3.0 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2019 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Website Copyright 2000 - 2017 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands

Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.1