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Old 01-16-2019, 08:07 PM   #71  
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I know plenty. No one will say a half decent word about this place online because the same 6 highly disgruntled people that blow up GCcomms daily love to tear them a new one for daring to disagree with their group think, instead of looking at the reasons why it might work for someone. (young, no family, heavy type to get to Fedex faster, better pay than regional, live in a base and no gateway or commute, fun layovers.) So yeah dude, Im mostly gruntled.
A lot of FedEx pilots were going on and on...and on and on and on, about what a crap company it was, how bad it was, and how no one should ever come there. Then, about 5 days later, they got a new contract agreement, and suddenly it was all roses and light, and FedEx was THE BEST place to work in the universe...it all depends on what phase of the contract situation that you are in, for many people.
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This is what is going on. Most of the pilots on the 737 at Southern are all Captains, so all you have is Captains flying with Captains.

They are doing upgrades on 777 fleet, which is obviously in an attempt to stave off attrition. Of course the company is saying it's for additional airframes, but yet there is no known aircraft being checked out by maintenance.

So then there will be more Captain on Captain pairings (more than we already have) on the 777F, so your opportunity for more PIC time on that fleet is also diminished. Oh, and in the scheduling system log, it will always shows the senior Captain as the PIC.

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If they staff it like they're staffing it on your 767 then you'll do tons of Captain on Captain pairings where as the Junior Captain you'll still be in the right seat.... Logging SIC.

If this doesn't spell it out well enough... On the 767 at Atlas they can't get enough bodies to work there. So... Instead of staffing the 767 FO position with FOs they hire FOs into the 747 where they're willing to work. Then when they're senior enough to hold a 767 upgrade they go to the left seat where (unlike other airlines) 60-65% of the pilots are Captains. This results on a TON of Captain on Captain pairings. Sounds like a great deal to get a 767 upgrade after only 3 years... Correct? Not so fast my friend.

The Senior Captain gets the option of taking the leg in the Left seat. So all of those times that you fly Captain on Captain you'll be in the right seat at the beginning unless the senior Captain is willing to let you take it. So if you fly 300 hours a year (like a 767 Captain told me last week) you'll log 200 hours of PIC... After 3 or 4 years at Atlas...

Bottom line... If your plan is to upgrade at Atlas or Southern and grind out 1000 hours PIC then plan on 8 years to do so if you're logging those hours legally. Since the same managers are attempting to staff an airline they also manage that's having the same problem you can do the math. I'm not saying it's a bad idea if this is your plan but there are probably better options.
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I'm still rooting for ALL of you (you included). Go look at your 767 list and tell me that my post doesn't contribute to the conversation. When I left it was approaching 65% Captains and I'd imagine it's gotten worse... You're on the 747 and are very senior so you might not have looked at it.
As of two days ago on the 767 there were only 56% Captains (332 767 CAs out of 590 total 767 CAs/FOs).

I'm not saying you're wrong, by any means. I think they are upgrading for retention, but also when you were here they were front-loading the Captains in anticipation of the rest of Amazon aircraft being delivered. Now that the massive expansion has ended, the crew numbers are back to something more normal. Still hiring for attrition, and just a little bit of anticipated growth.
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Suddenimpact / Scrupulous, you may be too busy conjuring up your theories and versions of reality to be paying attention to what is really going on. In case you missed the many communications from the union, both the Atlas and Southern union leadership teams are working in lock-step with each other.
Funny how "lock-step with each other" means the ExCo chair saying nice things in public releases and then stabs them in the back afterwards. Just heard another derogatory Southern story this week from an orange lanyard guy. He, just like you, doesn't know who is sitting in front of them when telling their stories.

We are repeating the history of the Atlas Polar merger again and we don't have anyone on the ExCo with longevity to remember it save the one who helped do the damage and his yes man that didn't do any volunteering back then.

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FYI: Atlas and Southern are in the same local.

Keep up with the crazy hate, though. We're rooting for you!
If you get back to the line, you will be able to hear it yourself. Otherwise, just keep taking the alternative "compensation" for your services.

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Felon-in-chief, huh? That is right, he made a mistake almost 30 years ago. Fell from one of the most coveted jobs in aviation. Found himself at rock bottom without anything and fought his way back to the top. The underdog comeback story in aviation if there ever was one. BTW, he has never hid from any of it and has always owned up to it while always pointing the finger at himself for the mistake that cost him everything.

Conversely, you have never done a ******** thing worthwhile in your entire life but try and tear down people on an anonymous forum. I bet every disappointment that defines your life is everyone else's fault but your own. You create lies of grandeur to pretend to be someone you are not and never will be. Enjoy your ordinary life.
Quite to the contrary. I actually flew with the FE on that event at another carrier and read and seen the Captain owning up to his problems day one and even later speaking at many meetings to help others. Of the three, ours was the one willing to say and do anything vs own up to it compared to them and just did his time.

In your typical, nothing happened before I got here mindset of which we have a number of you. You know nothing of what happened here, who did what, and etc but are willing to believe everything a guy who has at the very least mislead and/or lied to a court and many-many others regularly.

I have a pretty long list of positions and accomplishments that you get to enjoy as the relatively new snot nose here who has little to show so far for what you have done and definitely got paid for it in comparison to administrations past. The smallest was forensically tracking you down here when you were sabotaging a previous administrations efforts on a LOA here. You need to start keeping a diary of what you said to whom so you can keep up. Maybe tell the ExCo Chair that also.

We are certainly going the way of Local 747 and Joint Council 41 (in PDF).

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Old 01-17-2019, 02:27 PM   #75  
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If you get back to the line, you will be able to hear it yourself. Otherwise, just keep taking the alternative "compensation" for your services.
Dragging other people's illnesses out into public and then lying about their situation certainly does nothing for your legitimacy or your reputation. Telling such derogatory lies about me only reinforces the fact that everything else that you regurgitate is likewise untrue.

Now if you really want start telling tales, why don't you start with the many times you secretly collaborated with management against the union and then brag about the many times you crossed legitimate lines to fly "back in the day" !!
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Dragging other people's illnesses out into public and then lying about their situation certainly does nothing for your legitimacy or your reputation. Telling such derogatory lies about me only reinforces the fact that everything else that you regurgitate is likewise untrue.

Now if you really want start telling tales, why don't you start with the many times you secretly collaborated with management against the union and then brag about the many times you crossed legitimate lines to fly "back in the day" !!
Funny, I know of other's right now that don't take-haven't taken donated LMED from the membership donations if it was even offered to them by the leadership at all and posting prolifically as you. Kind of makes you think there are people and more important people. Kinda like "Animal Farm".

As to: "Now if you really want start telling tales, why don't you start with the many times you secretly collaborated with management against the union and then brag about the many times you crossed legitimate lines to fly "back in the day" !!".

This makes me curious what new stories are being generated now by our leadership to reinforce themselves. Considering the number of times I was verbally fired by management for standing up for our CBA long before you showed up to collect donations, I find your accusations funny and saddening. Please elaborate. Can't be any worse than before when knoxville was exposed and his sycophants started making up stuff, which most of them sided with me on the flight pay loss amendment we launched to stop the abuse.

Really, what's the story now? Smells like a new take on the Polar strike issue that ALPA had to step in for with the Alternative Dispute Resolution. I probably have something I can upload in response if this is not what your talking about. Pretty poor if our leadership is spewing this for sympathy again.

BTW, if your a compensated poster, you don't get to plead the sympathy card.

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"Quite to the contrary. I actually flew with the FE on that event at another carrier and read and seen the Captain owning up to his problems day one and even later speaking at many meetings to help others. Of the three, ours was the one willing to say and do anything vs own up to it compared to them and just did his time."

Ummmm....no. If you read Lyle's book about his account of the incident before and after you will see that his opinion of the two other crew members involved is diametrically opposed to the account you just laid out. Lyle said in no uncertain terms that he had absolutely no time for the FE involved and that he was the one who was doing anything he could to save his own skin. It's in print and you can read it for yourself.

I have no skin in this game, but to bring up a mistake that was made over 30 years ago in an effort to somehow bolster your position and credibility only goes to show what a weak and petty man you really are. The man made a mistake and has paid his debt.
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...and for those of you who wandered by, sat down in a lawn chair with a bucket of popcorn to watch the fireworks between these posters...they work for Atlas not Southern. Just helping you keep the players straight.
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Considering the number of times I was verbally fired by management for standing up for our CBA long before you showed up to collect donations, I find your accusations funny and saddening. Please elaborate.
And after getting fired so many times, the deals you cut with said management have kept you onboard; just as long as you keep slamming the union and working to undermine our EXCO. Management just loves you!

And no, I am not involved in any way with the union other than upholding their integrity against your incessant attacks. Hard for you to believe, I know, because you have never offered an ounce of effort to help anyone other than yourself without a big payoff. Consequently, you have become a management puppet taking secret dinners with JC giving you the ability to continue to suck money out of Atlas after having been "verbally fired by management" so many times.

Your subservient alliance to management is not just transparent, it shows up in neon lights on the message boards as you continuously lie about union supporters like me and union officers who post here. Then you incessantly slam the union in an effort to subvert our efforts to get a new contract.

Almost as bad as your selling out your fellow union sisters and brothers is your total lack of self control when it comes to the truth and the slander that drips from your mouth. So far beyond the realm of decency and "Terms of Use" that you have been banned from APC only to return under a different screen name. So many times have you spread falsehoods and aroused such animosity that thread after thread have been closed because of you and your uncontrollable keyboard rage.

Obviously, I know my own truth as do a hand full of those who are close to me, but you seem obsessed spreading ridiculous lies about me. Now, I am calling you out for your constant pathological lies about both myself and the union. Since you clearly know who I am, go ahead and identify yourself and stand behind your lies.

Or remain a coward and shout your lies from the shadows.

It's your choice and there's no doubt which path you'll take.
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"Quite to the contrary. I actually flew with the FE on that event at another carrier and read and seen the Captain owning up to his problems day one and even later speaking at many meetings to help others. Of the three, ours was the one willing to say and do anything vs own up to it compared to them and just did his time."

Ummmm....no. If you read Lyle's book about his account of the incident before and after you will see that his opinion of the two other crew members involved is diametrically opposed to the account you just laid out. Lyle said in no uncertain terms that he had absolutely no time for the FE involved and that he was the one who was doing anything he could to save his own skin. It's in print and you can read it for yourself.

I have no skin in this game, but to bring up a mistake that was made over 30 years ago in an effort to somehow bolster your position and credibility only goes to show what a weak and petty man you really are. The man made a mistake and has paid his debt.
I didn't read Prouse's book. Didn't know he had one or directly new the man. Did read "Flying Drunk" By Balzer. Having flown with him and later dealing with BK union wise, it comes down to a character call. B to my knowledge never lied to me. BK has many times.
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