Southern air
#22
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Joined APC: Nov 2017
Posts: 89
So I read tons of neg posts... makes Southern 777 opportunity look pretty concerning.... straight scoop please...
Am I to understand you can get paid less than Min-G (62 hours)? How does that work....
I am at a regional getting maybe 45 -55 Hours a month after losing flights to displacement etc.... I feel like flying a 777 at rates that appear much higher than regional FO pay would be a great opportunity... But reading posts makes it seem like that’s a very wrong thought on my end!
I am military and need more Turbine time to be competitive at what I feel would be my desired career airlines...I would like to get some Cargo experience as I truly believe I would prefer nights and straight trips 15-17 days rather than broken 4 on 2-3 off with passengers.... but again.... everyone seems to be so Neg about this... inputs please; real data...
Am I to understand you can get paid less than Min-G (62 hours)? How does that work....
I am at a regional getting maybe 45 -55 Hours a month after losing flights to displacement etc.... I feel like flying a 777 at rates that appear much higher than regional FO pay would be a great opportunity... But reading posts makes it seem like that’s a very wrong thought on my end!
I am military and need more Turbine time to be competitive at what I feel would be my desired career airlines...I would like to get some Cargo experience as I truly believe I would prefer nights and straight trips 15-17 days rather than broken 4 on 2-3 off with passengers.... but again.... everyone seems to be so Neg about this... inputs please; real data...
Why not go to Omni or Kalitta? They get paid wayyy more and Kalitta loves hiring military guys. They're also only gone 16 or 17 days a month. ATI and NAC also get paid a lot more and have better schedules. There are just so many better options.
And then of course there's Allegiant, Spirit, Frontier and probably more that I can't think of right now that all have better schedules and get paid a lot more. Those would all be great choices that would get you to your career destination.
#23
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2007
Position: Fetal and Fatigued
Posts: 348
Let’s not leave Home Depot, Lowe’s and being a Walmart greeter out of the equation. All of which would be better choices than Southern.
#25
So I read tons of neg posts... makes Southern 777 opportunity look pretty concerning.... straight scoop please...
Am I to understand you can get paid less than Min-G (62 hours)? How does that work....
I am at a regional getting maybe 45 -55 Hours a month after losing flights to displacement etc.... I feel like flying a 777 at rates that appear much higher than regional FO pay would be a great opportunity... But reading posts makes it seem like that’s a very wrong thought on my end!
I am military and need more Turbine time to be competitive at what I feel would be my desired career airlines...I would like to get some Cargo experience as I truly believe I would prefer nights and straight trips 15-17 days rather than broken 4 on 2-3 off with passengers.... but again.... everyone seems to be so Neg about this... inputs please; real data...
Am I to understand you can get paid less than Min-G (62 hours)? How does that work....
I am at a regional getting maybe 45 -55 Hours a month after losing flights to displacement etc.... I feel like flying a 777 at rates that appear much higher than regional FO pay would be a great opportunity... But reading posts makes it seem like that’s a very wrong thought on my end!
I am military and need more Turbine time to be competitive at what I feel would be my desired career airlines...I would like to get some Cargo experience as I truly believe I would prefer nights and straight trips 15-17 days rather than broken 4 on 2-3 off with passengers.... but again.... everyone seems to be so Neg about this... inputs please; real data...
Some of the regionals are flying a lot...look into switching regionals and taking the bonus for doing so...
#26
Jack is simply saying that Southern's pay and working conditions are so poor that qualified pilots usually head for better jobs at reputable airlines.
#27
On Reserve
Joined APC: Dec 2018
Posts: 24
Good points; thanks to everyone who is posting legit responses... anyone replying as a 777 guy at southern? Would be interested in knowing how many hours you are getting...
#28
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Joined APC: Dec 2018
Posts: 24
No, not time build.... I would like to fly larger aircraft internationally... I would like to compare the differences between ACMI / Cargo world and my current passenger flying world. At the same time If the hours and pay is more than I am getting now it seems like an opportunity... but again, I am researching and honestly asking questions to hear opinions.... Thanks for sharing thoughts
#29
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2014
Posts: 260
Funny how no one understands the sarcasm in this thread. You guys need to lighten up.
Do your really think that all the negative things discussed in this thread have changed in a little over a month?
Southern - It is what it is. Will never get better. Never has, never will. It will only get worse. Crew shortages mean that life will only get more miserable. I have already been called at home on days off. They attempted to involuntarily assign me a trip that would chew up my remaining 5-6 days off, which would put me right back on the road for the scheduled trip with no break whatsoever. What's to learn in that?
Married? Family? Not after a turn at SAI.
SAI is not ACMI anymore. It used to be fun when it was. Right now it is one contract, constantly going to the same places over and over. 14+ hour legs, which your are not going to get a lot of experience on. It will be a battle to keep current on your landings. What you will learn is how to sleep on an aircraft, how to get minimal rest when you land - maybe. When you do get a chance to get a longer layover in Hong Kong you will learn how to get your freak on in Wan Chai, get p**s drunk, and put your marriage in jeopardy.
When crews meet the first question to each other is "Did you get any sleep?". No joke.
As to the DUI reference - obviously a joke, you know back to that sarcasm thing. Just remember there is always a bit of truth behind a joke. You can read into that whatever way you want, hic!
Do your really think that all the negative things discussed in this thread have changed in a little over a month?
Southern - It is what it is. Will never get better. Never has, never will. It will only get worse. Crew shortages mean that life will only get more miserable. I have already been called at home on days off. They attempted to involuntarily assign me a trip that would chew up my remaining 5-6 days off, which would put me right back on the road for the scheduled trip with no break whatsoever. What's to learn in that?
Married? Family? Not after a turn at SAI.
SAI is not ACMI anymore. It used to be fun when it was. Right now it is one contract, constantly going to the same places over and over. 14+ hour legs, which your are not going to get a lot of experience on. It will be a battle to keep current on your landings. What you will learn is how to sleep on an aircraft, how to get minimal rest when you land - maybe. When you do get a chance to get a longer layover in Hong Kong you will learn how to get your freak on in Wan Chai, get p**s drunk, and put your marriage in jeopardy.
When crews meet the first question to each other is "Did you get any sleep?". No joke.
As to the DUI reference - obviously a joke, you know back to that sarcasm thing. Just remember there is always a bit of truth behind a joke. You can read into that whatever way you want, hic!
Last edited by Diesel8; 01-11-2019 at 08:02 AM.
#30
Regardless of how you feel about the 73 at Southern, this is a small industry. And the HR people move around just like the pilots do. In fact one of the reasons that HR people like job fairs is that they get to look around for their next job.
It is not a good idea to go off on anyone in the hiring system, to include the van drivers and receptionists.
It is not a good idea to go off on anyone in the hiring system, to include the van drivers and receptionists.
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