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Old 01-12-2019, 06:18 AM   #81  
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Not correct. The IRS manual uses an example of a truck driver based in PHX. ALL of the driver's trips start and end in PHX...which makes PHX the driver's tax home.

For many Atlas pilots, the above does not apply, because only a minority of trips start and end at their base. The IRS does not explain that situation...at all. This is why Imputed Income was being done in a non-standardized way, and not in accordance with IRS rules.
While I definitely believe this imputed income process was created internally by our infamous cato regime in management due to the fact they immediately came to us after it's implementation saying that they could make it go away if we got rid of gateway. ----NO KIDDING. At every subsequent attempt to fix CBA issues by the union this came up. The company could have always put this in the books as a normal corporate travel expense, they chose not to and used it as leverage at every opportunity.

Anyway, imputed income was challenged by one of our guys (MJ) that group sourced funds to do it and it didn't didn't favor us in the end. BTW that was under ALPA's watch and they did nothing. IRS isn't in the business of giving money back if they can help it. Especially if the money is in their possession.

1224 even hired a tax law office to review it again after we moved to IBT around 2012. Didn't work out for us any better. PM me if your interested and I'll send you what IBT got on it from them.
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Old 01-12-2019, 06:35 AM   #82  
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We call it "hotel reserve" because Atlas realizes most people don't live in base. Atlas could called it "short call" reserve and require everyone to be able to report to the airport within 90 minutes. Again, in the eyes of the IRS we do live in base and so having a hotel in our "home" city is a benefit.
this is interesting because many of the regionals now offer "commuter hotels" to their pilots (around 4 rooms a month IN BASE) that can be used either the night before a trip starts or the night after a trip ends. I have never heard of anyone getting imputed for these rooms, it seems like the same situation as when Atlas gateways you out the day before and puts you up in a hotel for the night before a trip starts.
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Old 01-12-2019, 12:01 PM   #83  
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this is interesting because many of the regionals now offer "commuter hotels" to their pilots (around 4 rooms a month IN BASE) that can be used either the night before a trip starts or the night after a trip ends. I have never heard of anyone getting imputed for these rooms, it seems like the same situation as when Atlas gateways you out the day before and puts you up in a hotel for the night before a trip starts.
ACMI gets hotels every night away from home. Most are considered home based and provided travel to wherever the plane is. There are exceptions where the airline actually has bases where trips start and finish from. I believe Atlas is like that, they do have domiciles that aren’t their homes like those who are truly home based. It’s a subtle difference.
Except for training, In the past year, to start a trip I was never sent from home to the same airport twice.
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this is interesting because many of the regionals now offer "commuter hotels" to their pilots (around 4 rooms a month IN BASE) that can be used either the night before a trip starts or the night after a trip ends. I have never heard of anyone getting imputed for these rooms, it seems like the same situation as when Atlas gateways you out the day before and puts you up in a hotel for the night before a trip starts.
I think a lot of folks may be making some errors in how they do their taxes. The biggest indicator of this is that nobody seems to agree about whether imputed income is necessary and why. If you are late sending your receipts in, you get a friendly email threatening to impute you unless you submit receipts. This implies that legitimate hotel costs aren't imputable as long as they're accounted for properly, which is somewhat baffling.

If you choose to come here it's really worthwhile to speak with and use a CPA when you do your taxes. It's saved us a lot of money and kept us out of trouble with the IRS. Some people recover whatever they lose to imputed income taxes when they do their own taxes at the end of the year.
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If you want the latest info on Imputed Income at Atlas, PM me...

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