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Old 01-29-2019, 12:04 PM   #101  
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And as far as “Company demands we be paid the lowest in the industry”......
that would not be ATI.[/QUOTE]

Just wondering who is the lowest paid in the industry?

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ATI does not have 17 day trips.
ATI has 16 on, 12 off.
Company paid travel and hotel on day 1 and day 16 with “true” Home Basing.

Some DHL lines are 7 on 7 off. Again, company paid travel and hotel “in” on day 1 and “out” on day 7. If you happen to live in CVG, your line essentially turns into 5 days “on” and 9 days “off”.

And as far as “Company demands we be paid the lowest in the industry”......
that would not be ATI.



and 16 work days in 28 is the equivalent of 17.3333333.... days in 30.

SO....thank you for clarifying that you actually work MORE than 17 days.
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and 16 work days in 28 is the equivalent of 17.3333333.... days in 30.

SO....thank you for clarifying that you actually work MORE than 17 days.
ATI’s year schedule is thirteen, 28 day bid periods per year.
You are comparing apples to oranges.

SO.... thank YOU for allowing me to clarify that for you.
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ATI’s year schedule is thirteen, 28 day bid periods per year.
You are comparing apples to oranges.

SO.... thank YOU for allowing me to clarify that for you.
Still comes out to more than 17 days a month.....
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Still comes out to more than 17 days a month.....
Well then thank goodness we don’t work under your “month”

And as I pointed out in the DHL system, I’ll take the 5 “on”, 9 “off”
and you could call it mashed potatoes. No worries.
Same goes for the AMZ schedule, it’ll still be 12 off.
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Well then thank goodness we don’t work under your “month”

And as I pointed out in the DHL system, I’ll take the 5 “on”, 9 “off”
and you could call it mashed potatoes. No worries.
Same goes for the AMZ schedule, it’ll still be 12 off.
Whew.....thank goodness. You still work 10 days more per year...( in the real world with 12 mos not 13 )
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Whew.....thank goodness. You still work 10 days more per year...( in the real world with 12 mos not 13 )
Again, your argument is apples to oranges. Hence the need to keep qualifying you statements with “...12 mos...” which means nothing to our scheduling process.

I’m done, this line of discussion has nothing to do with hiring.
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Again, your argument is apples to oranges. Hence the need to keep qualifying you statements with “...12 mos...” which means nothing to our scheduling process.

I’m done, this line of discussion has nothing to do with hiring.
Sure it does if a prospective pilot is actually calculating who actually has more days off per year.

Days per year is days per year....no apples or oranges to compare but if pilots can't do simple math then they get what they deserve
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are you saying that local guys are working 5 on and 9 off? thats pretty damn good and also really hard to believe. If true, I will apply ASAP
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Rather than looking at a month, consider a yearly overview and it may give a different perspective. This is a cut/paste from a post I made on a different thread regarding days off.

Just for a simple example..days off.
K4 - 14/30 (14*12=168 off/year) ATI - 12/28 (12*13=156 days off/year) [ATI has a 13 bid cycle/year for those who do not know]. A 12 day difference or what could be a half a month or more of work, again based on view. We all know individualistically, i.e. position/seat, vacation, where you live, luck, etc.... one's mileage will vary. Not meant to be pro or con, you be the judge of that.


Of course, mileage will vary depending on the individual (at any carrier). I believe it to be accurate that if you were to live in CVG, with ATI, your days off would be higher. There are "devils" in any details....in this example, ATI would consider you to be in your own city; therefore no hotel or per-diem (within a certain mileage). For more accurate info you would have to ask an ATI'er directly.

The point to be made was the amount of days off, by contract, without individual perspective.
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