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#351
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You know, I keep reading all these interpretations of the ruling. But I have actually read all the rulings. The most-salient synopsis is the Court's own synopsis of its prior rulings when the Union challenged the TRO.
You can read it too. It is here: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/USCOURTS-ohsd-1_16-cv-01096/pdf/USCOURTS-ohsd-1_16-cv-01096-1.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwiFucqV7pXjAhVPHc0KHYC2CPEQFjAAegQ IAxAB&usg=AOvVaw1THR-f0UhiBNcuQcjcHUle
It says pretty unequivocally that the three issues were all "minor disputes" in the rubric of the RLA that needed to be resolved by arbitration. It also says that there is no status quo violation by the Company on any of those three issues. As to the legality of the strike, in an earlier order, the Court stated that it had the power to enjoin illegal strikes, and then issued the injunction. For those who say the court never said the strike was illegal, that's the deduction that a higher court would make in evaluating the Court's reasoning. In other words, the court did in fact determine this strike to be illegal, which is why it enjoined it. Also the courts opinion of major or minor with Republicans in office that are certainly not pro union means jack s#!t. We were and still are in sec 6 negotiations...you have to have b@!!s enough to protect what's your.
I read so much about that strike, I think putting up a viewpoint based on the actual Court rulings might be helpful for folks.
You can read it too. It is here: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/USCOURTS-ohsd-1_16-cv-01096/pdf/USCOURTS-ohsd-1_16-cv-01096-1.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwiFucqV7pXjAhVPHc0KHYC2CPEQFjAAegQ IAxAB&usg=AOvVaw1THR-f0UhiBNcuQcjcHUle
It says pretty unequivocally that the three issues were all "minor disputes" in the rubric of the RLA that needed to be resolved by arbitration. It also says that there is no status quo violation by the Company on any of those three issues. As to the legality of the strike, in an earlier order, the Court stated that it had the power to enjoin illegal strikes, and then issued the injunction. For those who say the court never said the strike was illegal, that's the deduction that a higher court would make in evaluating the Court's reasoning. In other words, the court did in fact determine this strike to be illegal, which is why it enjoined it. Also the courts opinion of major or minor with Republicans in office that are certainly not pro union means jack s#!t. We were and still are in sec 6 negotiations...you have to have b@!!s enough to protect what's your.
I read so much about that strike, I think putting up a viewpoint based on the actual Court rulings might be helpful for folks.
#352
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Competetive hiring mins
For the fo's getting interviews and job offers at ATI, what are your ballpark flight times? I'm just waiting to throw in an app once the hiring window opens again and I've got 2000tt mostly turboprop, an atp, and some international time hoping to be competitive enough for an interview invite...
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#354
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Hahahahahaa. Yeah we did......the Judge ordered the company to settle all three items and then the company paid out hugh amounts of cash to the pilot group as part of that settlement. So neither of your two scenarios happened. Try again. You might have to grow a pair first. Hahahahahahahaa.
#355
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Um...no he didn't. He found that the company had already reached agreement as to how to handle those issues. The strike was a strategic gambit by the Union with a number of motivating factors. But it's not like the entire membership was up in arms over when you got to take your Baby Days. The alleged status quo violations were a basis to go forward on a strike that Union leadership very much wanted to have, not a reaction to those "minor issues" under the RLA, which were legally required to be worked out through negotiation and did not form a basis for a legal strike. What's important is that ABX crew members do believe that the strike was a good thing to do and, legal or not, they seem to be happy that they did it. And to a certain extent, that's all that matters.
#356
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Hahahahahaa. Yeah we did......the Judge ordered the company to settle all three items and then the company paid out hugh amounts of cash to the pilot group as part of that settlement. So neither of your two scenarios happened. Try again. You might have to grow a pair first. Hahahahahahahaa.
#358
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Um...no he didn't. He found that the company had already reached agreement as to how to handle those issues. The strike was a strategic gambit by the Union with a number of motivating factors. But it's not like the entire membership was up in arms over when you got to take your Baby Days. The alleged status quo violations were a basis to go forward on a strike that Union leadership very much wanted to have, not a reaction to those "minor issues" under the RLA, which were legally required to be worked out through negotiation and did not form a basis for a legal strike. What's important is that ABX crew members do believe that the strike was a good thing to do and, legal or not, they seem to be happy that they did it. And to a certain extent, that's all that matters.
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#360
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They can and we did.....we also did not allow any aircraft on our certificate to go to ATI as Joe demanded. If you have no idea about the issues surrounding the strike.. why comment?
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