60% Failure Rate at ABX
01-14-2019, 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by B727DRVR
You guys referred to the ABX Training Department in the 90's and early 2000's as the "Aryan Brotherhood"..., with failure rates so high, the FAA suposedly looked into why...
Are these guys back?
Are these guys back?
The problem is the trainees. They now tend to be low time, inexperienced, without the level of skill necessary to succeed, and our training department isn't going to dilute the training or pass them simply for the sake of getting bodies on line.
01-14-2019, 03:36 PM
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No it’s a new issue. Quality cut. We are becoming a “third world” training center. Hell one guy they hired had been flying a total of two years. He’s gone now, altering his logbooks. But the point is....this is what HR is hiring. Soapy and Flugelmeister have destroyed this place.
01-19-2019, 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Reactivity
It's not the training. The training is fine. It's mostly the same people who were doing the training when I went through it just a few years ago.
The problem is the trainees. They now tend to be low time, inexperienced, without the level of skill necessary to succeed, and our training department isn't going to dilute the training or pass them simply for the sake of getting bodies on line.
The problem is the trainees. They now tend to be low time, inexperienced, without the level of skill necessary to succeed, and our training department isn't going to dilute the training or pass them simply for the sake of getting bodies on line.
My airline needs more pilots online, and we have adjusted our training to match our new hire experience level a number of times.
01-20-2019, 03:23 AM
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Originally Posted by atpcliff
If your airline needs pilots, and the pass rate in training is too low, then training needs to be adopted to fit your new hire experience level. If you are getting the numbers you need online with a high failure rate, then it is not a (short term) problem.
My airline needs more pilots online, and we have adjusted our training to match our new hire experience level a number of times.
My airline needs more pilots online, and we have adjusted our training to match our new hire experience level a number of times.
01-29-2019, 01:49 AM
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Originally Posted by nitefr8dog
Hopefully not us....like Cliff said....they have made multiple changes to accommodate new hires that don't know how to fly...ABX just cans them...
02-05-2019, 08:21 AM
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Thanks for the update..
Thanks for that update...
I remember hearing about high failure rates at ABX in the ‘90’s, but it sounds like this is for different reasons. Best of luck to you guys and I hope things smooth out for you all..
I remember hearing about high failure rates at ABX in the ‘90’s, but it sounds like this is for different reasons. Best of luck to you guys and I hope things smooth out for you all..
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