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Riverside 01-14-2019 01:04 PM


Originally Posted by B727DRVR (Post 2742856)
Then, all I believe Riverside was saying was answering why he wouldn't want to come there since he was already making more money at K4 (which everybody here already knows is the case currently)but I think boasting would include dollar amounts... IMHO.

How dare you make sense :)

Elevation 01-14-2019 03:58 PM

Thanks for the burgers tonight!

jungle driver 01-18-2019 05:05 PM

From the Atlas page...

Pay Hours for work on scheduled workdays: Crewmembers are paid the greater of (1.) Pay Credits (Flight + DH + Training, etc), (2.) Calculated Rig Time (CRT), commonly known as a Trip Rig or (3.) Minimum Monthly Guarantee. CRT is calculated based on Time Away From Base at a factor of 1:4.95, which pays 4.85 pay hours for each 24 hour period away from base (24 divided by 4.95). CRT is also paid while crews are on layover or reserve in base.

So according to this if you do a 17 day trip you shouldn't ever credit less that about 80 hours in a normal month right?

boeingdvr 01-18-2019 05:14 PM


Originally Posted by jungle driver (Post 2745779)
From the Atlas page...

Pay Hours for work on scheduled workdays: Crewmembers are paid the greater of (1.) Pay Credits (Flight + DH + Training, etc), (2.) Calculated Rig Time (CRT), commonly known as a Trip Rig or (3.) Minimum Monthly Guarantee. CRT is calculated based on Time Away From Base at a factor of 1:4.95, which pays 4.85 pay hours for each 24 hour period away from base (24 divided by 4.95). CRT is also paid while crews are on layover or reserve in base.

So according to this if you do a 17 day trip you shouldn't ever credit less that about 80 hours in a normal month right?

Yes ! And NO !

The company owns you for 17 days. In theory they could put you on r2 every day for 17 days for 1 min and duty you off for 23:59 mins, and you would only make 62 hours.

So- the company owns you for 17 days. It's very very possible especially on the 76 to work 17 days and only get 62 hours of pay.

The only pilots breaking min pay, are the senior pilots bidding 17 day trips, or preferably 17 day continuous RSV lines (CRT KEEPS ROLLING ) and you will make 78.50 for the bid roughly.

The 747. ANC base ( junior base ) you will have the pleasure of doing 17 day trips ( don't forget your 4 days of commuting ) for 80 hours. So the company is paying you 3.8 hours per day for your 21 days.

We are hiring !!! Come see for yourself.

boeingdvr 01-18-2019 05:16 PM


Originally Posted by jungle driver (Post 2745779)
From the Atlas page...

Pay Hours for work on scheduled workdays: Crewmembers are paid the greater of (1.) Pay Credits (Flight + DH + Training, etc), (2.) Calculated Rig Time (CRT), commonly known as a Trip Rig or (3.) Minimum Monthly Guarantee. CRT is calculated based on Time Away From Base at a factor of 1:4.95, which pays 4.85 pay hours for each 24 hour period away from base (24 divided by 4.95). CRT is also paid while crews are on layover or reserve in base.

So according to this if you do a 17 day trip you shouldn't ever credit less that about 80 hours in a normal month right?

Don't forget.

2x times per year your will have training. Plan on 62 hours
2x per year you will have VACA. Plan on 62 hours.
Sick calls. Plan on 62 hours.
Plan on breaking 62 hours once or twice a year and you will not be let down !!!

We are hiring !!

Cujo665 01-18-2019 06:36 PM


Originally Posted by captainwoo (Post 2742640)
Hey,
I am really trying hard to get in for the 747 position to Atlas.
Do you have an idea what is like the magic number and the average time for new hires?
I have now about 2050 total hours with 510 Turbine SIC.
I do have a 4yr degree and just started working on my masters.
I did talk with the recruiters last Fall but was offered a interview for 737 which i was not looking forward.
Any helps and tips would be really appreciated!

Man how times have changed.... not a dig at you, just observing that when most of us started those times might get you an interview to fly a B1900. Today, it’s turning down 737.
Some people still insist there’s no pilot shortage too....

Good luck, keep applying yourself. You’ll get there.

Twin Wasp 01-18-2019 09:58 PM


Originally Posted by jungle driver (Post 2745779)
From the Atlas page...

Pay Hours for work on scheduled workdays: Crewmembers are paid the greater of (1.) Pay Credits (Flight + DH + Training, etc), (2.) Calculated Rig Time (CRT), commonly known as a Trip Rig or (3.) Minimum Monthly Guarantee. CRT is calculated based on Time Away From Base at a factor of 1:4.95, which pays 4.85 pay hours for each 24 hour period away from base (24 divided by 4.95). CRT is also paid while crews are on layover or reserve in base.

So according to this if you do a 17 day trip you shouldn't ever credit less that about 80 hours in a normal month right?

Rig starts when your trip starts. So if you have an early morning local departure half the Z day is gone. And if you get back in the evening it's only a couple hours into the Z day and you probably won't get home that evening. Low 70's rig credit is normal.

jungle driver 01-19-2019 12:17 PM


Originally Posted by boeingdvr (Post 2745786)
Yes ! And NO !

The company owns you for 17 days. In theory they could put you on r2 every day for 17 days for 1 min and duty you off for 23:59 mins, and you would only make 62 hours.

So- the company owns you for 17 days. It's very very possible especially on the 76 to work 17 days and only get 62 hours of pay.

The only pilots breaking min pay, are the senior pilots bidding 17 day trips, or preferably 17 day continuous RSV lines (CRT KEEPS ROLLING ) and you will make 78.50 for the bid roughly.

The 747. ANC base ( junior base ) you will have the pleasure of doing 17 day trips ( don't forget your 4 days of commuting ) for 80 hours. So the company is paying you 3.8 hours per day for your 21 days.

We are hiring !!! Come see for yourself.


Originally Posted by boeingdvr (Post 2745788)
Don't forget.

2x times per year your will have training. Plan on 62 hours
2x per year you will have VACA. Plan on 62 hours.
Sick calls. Plan on 62 hours.
Plan on breaking 62 hours once or twice a year and you will not be let down !!!

We are hiring !!


Originally Posted by Twin Wasp (Post 2745895)
Rig starts when your trip starts. So if you have an early morning local departure half the Z day is gone. And if you get back in the evening it's only a couple hours into the Z day and you probably won't get home that evening. Low 70's rig credit is normal.

Thanks! Those are all about what I expected to hear just wanted to make sure I wasn't overlooking something.

Globemaster2827 01-19-2019 03:02 PM


Originally Posted by boeingdvr (Post 2745788)
Don't forget.

2x times per year your will have training. Plan on 62 hours
2x per year you will have VACA. Plan on 62 hours.
Sick calls. Plan on 62 hours.
Plan on breaking 62 hours once or twice a year and you will not be let down !!!

We are hiring !!

I lost two grandparents while there... 62 hours.

atpcliff 01-19-2019 10:39 PM


Originally Posted by jungle driver (Post 2745779)
From the Atlas page...

Pay Hours for work on scheduled workdays: Crewmembers are paid the greater of (1.) Pay Credits (Flight + DH + Training, etc), (2.) Calculated Rig Time (CRT), commonly known as a Trip Rig or (3.) Minimum Monthly Guarantee. CRT is calculated based on Time Away From Base at a factor of 1:4.95, which pays 4.85 pay hours for each 24 hour period away from base (24 divided by 4.95). CRT is also paid while crews are on layover or reserve in base.

So according to this if you do a 17 day trip you shouldn't ever credit less that about 80 hours in a normal month right?

You can also either start late, or get home early, with your paid days changed to R1, which is home reserve, no pay. My schedule this month I have two days of R1 at the end of my pattern.

The last average I heard was overall for ALL Atlas pilots, the number is 74 hours/month. That WAS several years ago, before much of the Amazon flying. In ONT, which is Amazon only I believe, pretty much everyone is at 62 hours every month, due to the way Amazon schedules their flying (Note: I am on the 747, so the above is what I have read)...


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