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Old 01-16-2019, 01:49 PM   #21  
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I seem to recall we had a FA (very brief time) that would bring her dog with her to work at Mesa. Or maybe I have early onset Alzheimer's.
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Old 01-16-2019, 02:16 PM   #22  
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I wouldn't turn you away. Can't say I see anywhere the FOM prohibits it. Not sure where people think it's the Captains responsibility what a jumpseatet does or does not bring into a country. That's on you.
So I go buy a ticket on United. Pay the fee to bring the dog. What's the problem? These guys seem to think just because you are jumpseating this whole deal is illegal for some reason.

What's the difference legality wise between whether you JS with a pet or a paying passenger with a pet?

Not talking about anything else besides the legal aspect. Feel free to troll some more if that's your thing. (not you HogCapt)
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Because any scheduled pax carrier has procedures to ensure all of the destination countriy’s requirements have been met. Atlas, Southern, K4, FDX and UPS do not for pets. Those airlines would have no problem if the pet was shipped through a known shipper that complied with all of the entry procedures. What you are asking is for one of those airlines to take on that extra responsibility themselves.
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I wouldn't turn you away. Can't say I see anywhere the FOM prohibits it. Not sure where people think it's the Captains responsibility what a jumpseatet does or does not bring into a country. That's on you.
The last thing I want after a 16 hour flight across the pond is to have the Agriculture, Fisheries and Conservation Department in Hong Kong meet my plane and place us all in quarantine because your dog rode on the upper deck with the crew.

Maybe some captains will go with "it's not prohibited in the book" and allow you to take whatever you want.

I think most captains fall into the "it's not allowed in the book" crowd and prohibit animals on their plane.

Do you know anything about how importing a pet into HK works?
Do you know what paperwork in required to be signed by the captain? Who would provide that and who would verify that it is correct?
Do you know pets must enter as air cargo at the international airports in Hong Kong? Do you know what this entails regarding where the pet may ride on a cargo plane?
Do you know who needs to be notified in HK and how much advanced notice is required?
Do you know the age and breed restrictions for importing pats into HK?

I just looked these things up and I can tell you that any one of them is a red flag for me as a captain and would be you would be denied a ride immediately.

Asking a captain to do anything this extraordinary is unprofessional. You either haven't been in the industry very long or you have a warped sense of entitlement that would lead you to even bring up such a question. Jumpseat etiquette has always had a very narrow window of acceptable qualifications and behaviors. It is a privilege that comes with responsibilities about which you should become informed. Asking a captain or even another airline to do something as out-of-the-ordinary as importing a pet into a foreign country is so far out of bounds that I have to wonder what experience in your career ever made you think that this was a good idea in the first place.
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Old 01-16-2019, 03:38 PM   #25  
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The last thing I want after a 16 hour flight across the pond is to have the Agriculture, Fisheries and Conservation Department in Hong Kong meet my plane and place us all in quarantine because your dog rode on the upper deck with the crew.

Maybe some captains will go with "it's not prohibited in the book" and allow you to take whatever you want.

I think most captains fall into the "it's not allowed in the book" crowd and prohibit animals on their plane.

Do you know anything about how importing a pet into HK works?
Do you know what paperwork in required to be signed by the captain? Who would provide that and who would verify that it is correct?
Do you know pets must enter as air cargo at the international airports in Hong Kong? Do you know what this entails regarding where the pet may ride on a cargo plane?
Do you know who needs to be notified in HK and how much advanced notice is required?
Do you know the age and breed restrictions for importing pats into HK?

I just looked these things up and I can tell you that any one of them is a red flag for me as a captain and would be you would be denied a ride immediately.

Asking a captain to do anything this extraordinary is unprofessional. You either haven't been in the industry very long or you have a warped sense of entitlement that would lead you to even bring up such a question. Jumpseat etiquette has always had a very narrow window of acceptable qualifications and behaviors. It is a privilege that comes with responsibilities about which you should become informed. Asking a captain or even another airline to do something as out-of-the-ordinary as importing a pet into a foreign country is so far out of bounds that I have to wonder what experience in your career ever made you think that this was a good idea in the first place.
Thanks for the reply. That's why the question was asked.
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I love dogs. Even though I'm in the "not on my plane" camp, I'd be interested to hear how you're gonna get your dog to Hong Kong. Leaving and losing dogs is as bad as leaving/losing family members. I get why you'd be searching for options.

Good luck!
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I love dogs. Even though I'm in the "not on my plane" camp, I'd be interested to hear how you're gonna get your dog to Hong Kong. Leaving and losing dogs is as bad as leaving/losing family members. I get why you'd be searching for options.

Good luck!
Many of us in the FDX HKG base have shipped animals via the passenger airlines. Most use Cathay, as they seem to do a great job and make the process fairly straightforward.
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Or someone with absolute sense of etiquette would ask first. I have seen and taken jumpseaters of various airlines in the past that carried a dog.



Not sure why this is so foreign to you?



Again, you have nothing to contribute to this thread. Please go away troll.


Who is the troll now when the consensus is go pound sand? Again, common sense is lacking here. No wonder you can’t get hired at a Legacy or Fedex/UPS, can’t imagine your interview answers if you think bringing a dog on a jumpseat is OK [emoji15]

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Fault him if he showed up with a dog, not for asking a question!
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Fault him if he showed up with a dog, not for asking a question!
Well said.
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