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01-23-2019, 08:30 PM
#21
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Joined APC: Jul 2017
Position: Heavy
Posts: 187
So junior 777 Captain is 05/2015? Is this accurate? I just met an FO who had been with Southern since ‘09 and they were saying they were next in the list. ??? Were Atlas guys allowed to bid over to 777 Captain?
01-23-2019, 09:14 PM
#22
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Joined APC: Apr 2017
Posts: 465
Originally Posted by Colt45
So junior 777 Captain is 05/2015? Is this accurate? I just met an FO who had been with Southern since ‘09 and they were saying they were next in the list. ??? Were Atlas guys allowed to bid over to 777 Captain?
01-23-2019, 09:55 PM
#23
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Joined APC: Apr 2018
Posts: 33
Originally Posted by RyeMex
Guys being hired at this very moment are still being told that they'll be in the left seat in 2 years. Buyer beware.
01-24-2019, 05:25 AM
#25
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Joined APC: Sep 2009
Posts: 611
Originally Posted by Colt45
Ok.. so the info that was posted on APC (777 CA - 05/2015)is incorrect. Thanks.
New CBA coming soon!!!
Get in front of this huge hiring wave!!!
Upgrade Quickly!!!
All lies designed to get you in the door so management can put a warm body in a seat. It will take you about a year to learn that you were tricked and by that time you have already become their next victim.
I flew with a guy last trip who asked me no less than six times when I thought he would upgrade. He had been here two years and told me the recruiters said he would have upgraded by now. There is no upgrade in sight for him. He was so upset that he had been duped.
01-24-2019, 06:00 AM
#26
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Joined APC: Jun 2017
Position: 777 Left window seat
Posts: 640
Upgrade to 737 CA from 777 FO was awarded a few months ago to a late 2017 DOH. That’s an even better deal than 18 months to FDX 757 CA. This is where the extreme sarcasm emoji would be inserted. 😜
Upgrade time anywhere (Kalitta, Atlas, Omni, Southern, etc) can change rapidly either way depending on growth or the end of a contract with a customer. It all depends on where you are in the hiring wave when the music stops.
Upgrade time anywhere (Kalitta, Atlas, Omni, Southern, etc) can change rapidly either way depending on growth or the end of a contract with a customer. It all depends on where you are in the hiring wave when the music stops.
01-24-2019, 06:17 AM
#27
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Joined APC: Apr 2007
Posts: 1,809
Originally Posted by Birdsmash
Upgrade to 737 CA from 777 FO was awarded a few months ago to a late 2017 DOH. That’s an even better deal than 18 months to FDX 757 CA. This is where the extreme sarcasm emoji would be inserted. 😜
Upgrade time anywhere (Kalitta, Atlas, Omni, Southern, etc) can change rapidly either way depending on growth or the end of a contract with a customer. It all depends on where you are in the hiring wave when the music stops.
Upgrade time anywhere (Kalitta, Atlas, Omni, Southern, etc) can change rapidly either way depending on growth or the end of a contract with a customer. It all depends on where you are in the hiring wave when the music stops.
01-24-2019, 06:17 AM
#28
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Joined APC: Dec 2010
Position: Former 747 Captain
Posts: 150
Originally Posted by JonnyKnoxville
Not just incorrect. The information coming from our recruiters is intentionally deceiving.
New CBA coming soon!!!
Get in front of this huge hiring wave!!!
Upgrade Quickly!!!
All lies designed to get you in the door so management can put a warm body in a seat. It will take you about a year to learn that you were tricked and by that time you have already become their next victim.
I flew with a guy last trip who asked me no less than six times when I thought he would upgrade. He had been here two years and told me the recruiters said he would have upgraded by now. There is no upgrade in sight for him. He was so upset that he had been duped.
New CBA coming soon!!!
Get in front of this huge hiring wave!!!
Upgrade Quickly!!!
All lies designed to get you in the door so management can put a warm body in a seat. It will take you about a year to learn that you were tricked and by that time you have already become their next victim.
I flew with a guy last trip who asked me no less than six times when I thought he would upgrade. He had been here two years and told me the recruiters said he would have upgraded by now. There is no upgrade in sight for him. He was so upset that he had been duped.
You really are the epitome of the angry young man aren't you?
01-24-2019, 08:00 AM
#29
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Joined APC: Sep 2009
Posts: 611
Originally Posted by FR8Dog7
You really are the epitome of the angry young man aren't you?
I know you no longer are able to witness it first hand, but the number of new first officers that are bewildered by the poor choice they made to come work for Atlas/Southern is astounding. When they are questioned on their decision, it almost always comes up that part of the reason they made such a bad career choice was on the false promises of management.
01-24-2019, 08:55 AM
#30
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Joined APC: Sep 2015
Posts: 666
Originally Posted by JonnyKnoxville
...it almost always comes up that part of the reason they made such a bad career choice was on the false promises of management.
There are a lot of pilots out there who expect that they can take what the recruiters say as more or less the truth, even if it's a "rosy" picture. Most of these guys don't realize that they are being told straight up lies just to get them in the door.
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