Southern Air 737
#21
There have been many post stating the 737 at Southern is a less than good place to hang your hat... I am NOT at Southern so no first hand knowledge... You have all the building blocks to get to a Legacy or other Tier II carrier with a AA Flow as a maybe insurance policy... If you are young under 30 I would recommend you sit tight and apply/update and update at the Carriers of choice and not go to a Less than desirable carrier... Just my 10 Yen worth... Best of luck...
Kampai
Kampai
#22
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Joined APC: Sep 2009
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First Year Gross Pay (Before Deductions) - $38,240
Second Year Gross Pay (Before Deductions) - $59,222
Third Year Gross Pay (Before Deductions) - $59,557
#23
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Position: B-737NG preferably in first class with a glass of champagne and caviar
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I apologize but I just realized I made an error in first year pay as first year guarantee is 50 hours (not 62 hours). The correct pay is:
First Year Gross Pay (Before Deductions) - $38,240
Second Year Gross Pay (Before Deductions) - $59,222
Third Year Gross Pay (Before Deductions) - $59,557
First Year Gross Pay (Before Deductions) - $38,240
Second Year Gross Pay (Before Deductions) - $59,222
Third Year Gross Pay (Before Deductions) - $59,557
#26
Hello Guys, the last company thread is current closed.
I got an offer to fly the 737 for Southern Air...not sure what do to
I would strongly recommend NO.
2000 TT, 500 Turbine SIC, college degree, no skeletons in closet and no red flags (I hope so)
I'm at a whole owned forever on reserve commuting...what kind of gets old, however if everything works out I should have a spot on AA in 10 years lol.
It will be a LOT sooner than that, especially if you apply everywhere, including AA. AA has hired some pilots from their own regionals, outside the flow.
I'm a little familiar to ACMI operations...and the lack of operations some times. I'm trying to evaluate my decision...also, they told me the 737 is CVG based...so should I suppose is not a commutable position?? Home based like the 777 would for sure be a huge advantage.
You will have Gateway Travel, so you just show up at your local "Gateway" airport, and show them your boarding pass.
The 777 will lose Home Basing soon, and go to Gateway Travel instead...Gateway Travel is not as good as Home/Gateway Basing.
Also, not sure if the pay would be really a raise...is it possible to fly above guarantee? What about upgrade times?
The pay is pitiful. I think they are upgrading everyone, so they have more incentive to stay, but you don't fly much, so it takes a long time if you are well below PIC mins.
Anyone could help me to make an educate decision?
I'm aware of the current Atlas situation and the lack of a contract...not sure if it's a good bet going there hopping for an improvement soon
I got an offer to fly the 737 for Southern Air...not sure what do to
I would strongly recommend NO.
2000 TT, 500 Turbine SIC, college degree, no skeletons in closet and no red flags (I hope so)
I'm at a whole owned forever on reserve commuting...what kind of gets old, however if everything works out I should have a spot on AA in 10 years lol.
It will be a LOT sooner than that, especially if you apply everywhere, including AA. AA has hired some pilots from their own regionals, outside the flow.
I'm a little familiar to ACMI operations...and the lack of operations some times. I'm trying to evaluate my decision...also, they told me the 737 is CVG based...so should I suppose is not a commutable position?? Home based like the 777 would for sure be a huge advantage.
You will have Gateway Travel, so you just show up at your local "Gateway" airport, and show them your boarding pass.
The 777 will lose Home Basing soon, and go to Gateway Travel instead...Gateway Travel is not as good as Home/Gateway Basing.
Also, not sure if the pay would be really a raise...is it possible to fly above guarantee? What about upgrade times?
The pay is pitiful. I think they are upgrading everyone, so they have more incentive to stay, but you don't fly much, so it takes a long time if you are well below PIC mins.
Anyone could help me to make an educate decision?
I'm aware of the current Atlas situation and the lack of a contract...not sure if it's a good bet going there hopping for an improvement soon
1-Atlas 747
2-Southern 777
3-Atlas 767
25-Southern 737.
Atlas 767 could be number one if you live in CVG, or want to move there, and just do domestic hub turns.
Note: Atlas does passenger flying, and are buying more passenger planes.
#27
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Joined APC: Nov 2018
Posts: 160
Southern now that is funny! Heard they had 1 talked into a class of 10. How did they find 1 guy?
#29
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Not quite. We had a 777 class with 6. 2 dropped out after day one.
Two classes ago we had 1 on the 737 and I believe the most recent had 6-7. Before that it was in the 3-5 range.
Southern Air. Come fly nights for the rest of your life !!
Two classes ago we had 1 on the 737 and I believe the most recent had 6-7. Before that it was in the 3-5 range.
Southern Air. Come fly nights for the rest of your life !!
#30
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Joined APC: Jul 2017
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The way I look at it, I’m sure the pilot group there is full of guys that can’t get hired anywhere along with 23 year olds that have the 737-400 on their computer background. Just stay away.
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