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Old 02-23-2019, 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by WacoQCF View Post
Upgrades are at a trickle over the past 2 years. Best guess is 7 years for a 747 FO to upgrade, probably longer for recent hires.

These are facts, not union drum beating.
True ^^^ for the Atlas side of the house. If you are going to post under “Southern Air 737” why don’t you post what the upgrade time is on that fleet? Geeez, it’s like I’m reading a story by CNN, or a tweet from POTUS, where only the portions of the facts that stear the narrative are part of the story.
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Old 02-23-2019, 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Birdsmash View Post
True ^^^ for the Atlas side of the house. If you are going to post under “Southern Air 737” why don’t you post what the upgrade time is on that fleet? Geeez, it’s like I’m reading a story by CNN, or a tweet from POTUS, where only the portions of the facts that stear the narrative are part of the story.
I didn't realize recruiters worked on weekends.
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Old 02-23-2019, 09:19 AM
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You go rock that interview....
Will do! 'cause I rock!
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Old 02-23-2019, 09:42 AM
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I didn't realize recruiters worked on weekends.
Im far from a recruiter. However, if I thought taking the other side of the trade would benefit my fellow SouthernAir pilots I’m quite sure I could increase the pile of interviewees and new hires.

I’m just not going to let a few Atlas pilots (most are outstanding individuals) start posting misleading or half-truths on another airline’s threads. Did you notice I didn’t intervene with the previous CBA or pay discussions? Because it was correct. Stick to the truth...it’s sad enough.
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Old 02-23-2019, 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Birdsmash View Post
Im far from a recruiter. However, if I thought taking the other side of the trade would benefit my fellow SouthernAir pilots I’m quite sure I could increase the pile of interviewees and new hires.

I’m just not going to let a few Atlas pilots (most are outstanding individuals) start posting misleading or half-truths on another airline’s threads. Did you notice I didn’t intervene with the previous CBA or pay discussions? Because it was correct. Stick to the truth...it’s sad enough.
Trying to create friction between the Atlas and Southern pilots while recruiting for Southern... definitely a management stooge/recruiter.
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Old 02-23-2019, 10:31 AM
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That's why you are interview at an amazing company.
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Old 02-23-2019, 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Riverside View Post
You go rock that interview....
Does he really need to? Are there people who are qualified to work at Southern or Atlas who don't pass the interview? I'm talking within the last year...
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Old 02-23-2019, 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Globemaster2827 View Post
Funny how we're posting the actual numbers and nobody WANTS to believe it. Yeah... Your number is what you're guaranteed.
Yikes! Atlas year 1+2 mmg is as much as a RJ FO makes in their first 18 months at an AA Wholly Owned regional.
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Old 02-23-2019, 07:29 PM
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That's why you are interview at an amazing company.
Remember, grammar is your friend...
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Old 02-23-2019, 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Birdsmash View Post
Im far from a recruiter. However, if I thought taking the other side of the trade would benefit my fellow SouthernAir pilots I’m quite sure I could increase the pile of interviewees and new hires.

I’m just not going to let a few Atlas pilots (most are outstanding individuals) start posting misleading or half-truths on another airline’s threads. Did you notice I didn’t intervene with the previous CBA or pay discussions? Because it was correct. Stick to the truth...it’s sad enough.
According to the latest SAI Master pilot Seniority List 12/15/18, the 737 captain upgrade time is over three years and the 777 upgrade times are at around 9 years now.

Birdsmash, since I honestly don't know, can you answer these questions here, please?

What are the minimum times required to upgrade to Captain on the 737 at SAI?

Next, how many years would it take a new hire to gain those required hours with the normal 737 schedules assuming they had only the required bare minimum 500 hours in a 121 regional jet (with no PIC) when they were first hired?

Also, if Southern has 5 737's why do only four show up on the Hawk scheduling page (this usually includes planes that are in heavy MX)?

Is it because of manning issues? (It looks like you have only 47 total 737 pilots (CA + FO) to man 5 planes ...)

And, last, are the posted 737 annual pay amounts correct: 1st year 38.2, 2nd year 59.2? (hint: I know this one).

Also is it true that THIRD year pay is ALSO 59.2?
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