Atlas Air - Spend your career as an F.O.
01-22-2019, 04:26 PM
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Atlas Air - Spend your career as an F.O.
The Atlas Air profile page as been updated showcasing the quick upgrades that have been awarded in the past. Like a good used car salesman, the pilot recruiters are saying anything they can to get people in the door.
747 CA 02/2015
767 CA 02/2016
777 CA 05/2015
737 CA 04/2016
But just like in the investment world, past performance is no guarantee of future results. In the case of upgrade opportunities at Atlas Air, I would say just the opposite is true.
1,000 pilots have been hired in the past four years.
That is right, we have just gone through a growth spurt. With a fleet of 113 aircraft at the holding company, they would roughly have to get 113 more aircraft to upgrade the new hire today (assuming no attrition). Now, it is no secret that the flood gates are open as pilots are fleeing like rats off a sinking ship. With no growth and mass attrition of 200+ a year, you stand a chance on upgrading at some point. But keep in mind, the senior Captains are not the ones leaving for other airlines like the junior pilots (mainly First Officers).
Place your bets on upgrade times going forward for a new hire starting today.
My bet 10 years.
747 CA 02/2015
767 CA 02/2016
777 CA 05/2015
737 CA 04/2016
But just like in the investment world, past performance is no guarantee of future results. In the case of upgrade opportunities at Atlas Air, I would say just the opposite is true.
1,000 pilots have been hired in the past four years.
That is right, we have just gone through a growth spurt. With a fleet of 113 aircraft at the holding company, they would roughly have to get 113 more aircraft to upgrade the new hire today (assuming no attrition). Now, it is no secret that the flood gates are open as pilots are fleeing like rats off a sinking ship. With no growth and mass attrition of 200+ a year, you stand a chance on upgrading at some point. But keep in mind, the senior Captains are not the ones leaving for other airlines like the junior pilots (mainly First Officers).
Place your bets on upgrade times going forward for a new hire starting today.
My bet 10 years.
01-22-2019, 07:22 PM
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Position: Atlas 767 Captain
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SPOT ON.....Atlas used to have so much potential, then our businessmen showed their true colors and continually do so. TOXIC....
Originally Posted by JonnyKnoxville
The Atlas Air profile page as been updated showcasing the quick upgrades that have been awarded in the past. Like a good used car salesman, the pilot recruiters are saying anything they can to get people in the door.
747 CA 02/2015
767 CA 02/2016
777 CA 05/2015
737 CA 04/2016
But just like in the investment world, past performance is no guarantee of future results. In the case of upgrade opportunities at Atlas Air, I would say just the opposite is true.
1,000 pilots have been hired in the past four years.
That is right, we have just gone through a growth spurt. With a fleet of 113 aircraft at the holding company, they would roughly have to get 113 more aircraft to upgrade the new hire today (assuming no attrition). Now, it is no secret that the flood gates are open as pilots are fleeing like rats off a sinking ship. With no growth and mass attrition of 200+ a year, you stand a chance on upgrading at some point. But keep in mind, the senior Captains are not the ones leaving for other airlines like the junior pilots (mainly First Officers).
Place your bets on upgrade times going forward for a new hire starting today.
My bet 10 years.
747 CA 02/2015
767 CA 02/2016
777 CA 05/2015
737 CA 04/2016
But just like in the investment world, past performance is no guarantee of future results. In the case of upgrade opportunities at Atlas Air, I would say just the opposite is true.
1,000 pilots have been hired in the past four years.
That is right, we have just gone through a growth spurt. With a fleet of 113 aircraft at the holding company, they would roughly have to get 113 more aircraft to upgrade the new hire today (assuming no attrition). Now, it is no secret that the flood gates are open as pilots are fleeing like rats off a sinking ship. With no growth and mass attrition of 200+ a year, you stand a chance on upgrading at some point. But keep in mind, the senior Captains are not the ones leaving for other airlines like the junior pilots (mainly First Officers).
Place your bets on upgrade times going forward for a new hire starting today.
My bet 10 years.
01-23-2019, 02:26 AM
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This is something that I've been telling new guys on the line. They get pretty upset when I give them a reality check.
I'm a 3rd year FO and still 18-24 months away from an upgrade at the very least. And upgrade times are climbing with every vacancy award.
I figure that in the near to medium term, it'll stabilize around the 6-7 year mark for the 767, and around 10 years for the 747.
Guys being hired at this very moment are still being told that they'll be in the left seat in 2 years. Buyer beware.
I'm a 3rd year FO and still 18-24 months away from an upgrade at the very least. And upgrade times are climbing with every vacancy award.
I figure that in the near to medium term, it'll stabilize around the 6-7 year mark for the 767, and around 10 years for the 747.
Guys being hired at this very moment are still being told that they'll be in the left seat in 2 years. Buyer beware.
01-23-2019, 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted by LoneStarM1A
Yep. Why would you come here? Stupid to do so.
Or was that just SHOP and BOOT and bullying new hires not to pick up OT?
01-23-2019, 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted by RyeMex
This is something that I've been telling new guys on the line. They get pretty upset when I give them a reality check.
I'm a 3rd year FO and still 18-24 months away from an upgrade at the very least. And upgrade times are climbing with every vacancy award.
I figure that in the near to medium term, it'll stabilize around the 6-7 year mark for the 767, and around 10 years for the 747.
Guys being hired at this very moment are still being told that they'll be in the left seat in 2 years. Buyer beware.
I'm a 3rd year FO and still 18-24 months away from an upgrade at the very least. And upgrade times are climbing with every vacancy award.
I figure that in the near to medium term, it'll stabilize around the 6-7 year mark for the 767, and around 10 years for the 747.
Guys being hired at this very moment are still being told that they'll be in the left seat in 2 years. Buyer beware.
01-23-2019, 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by TiredSoul
Weren’t you guys told by a judge to knock it off? Union send an email too.
Or was that just SHOP and BOOT and bullying new hires not to pick up OT?
Or was that just SHOP and BOOT and bullying new hires not to pick up OT?
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