Originally Posted by JonnyKnoxville

Congratulations on running the gauntlet and coming out the other side unscathed.

Originally Posted by Biggbird

Can someone explain how the trip extensions work at southern? I’m interested in the southern777/atlas 747 gigs. 17 days a month doesn't sound bad. 20 days per month plus the commute to the gateway airport (which counts as part of the 17/20? Maybe not?) is alot of time away.

I’m tempted to leave my regional but am finding a lot of reasons to pump the brakes on this. Heavy time isnt worth being away 22 days a month for 61 hours(50 the first year). I like cargo but this is a far cry from any “mainline” cargo gig like UPS, Fedex. Are there guys that leapfrog to those places after flying here for a year or 2?

Am I missing something?

Originally Posted by boeingdvr

Doesn’t sound bad. Your right, as you sit in your house, on your body clock, and a decent night sleep.

Day 0- Commute to CVG to LAX
DAY 1. CVG-Bahrain, mim rest
Day 2- BAH- Some hole in Asia, maybe 18 hours of rest
Day 3 Asia-CVG ( body clock is truly mucked ) give they guy a 24/7
Day 5- in a fog, but I can do this CVG-BAH, min rest
Day 6- damn, I feel like ****, how many more days to go, quick look at PCD, damn 12 more to go. Schedule change, BACK to CVG. 18 hours of rest
Day 7- CVG-LEG. What the ****.
Day 8- LEG- ASIA 24/7 ( happy ending ) because at this point, I feel like ****, and need something
Day 9- ASIA- CVG MIN REST
DAY 10- layover in CVG
DAY 11 CVG-BAH min rest what the hell did I do.
Day12- BAH- ASIA
DAY 13, ok, I can do this. Only a few more days to go! Oh ****, what’s this, what the ****, they just extended me 3 more days, plus a late commute home.
Day 14- 9 more days to go
Day 21- commute home
8 days off

Back out to do it all again.

Are you getting the picture ? If you don’t believe me, come see for yourself- the patterns are build non stop flying around the world with the absolute min rest the company can give you.

Come on, we are hiring. Come ruin your body clock with me!

Originally Posted by boeingdvr

Doesn’t sound bad. Your right, as you sit in your house, on your body clock, and a decent night sleep.

Day 0- Commute to CVG to LAX
DAY 1. CVG-Bahrain, mim rest
Day 2- BAH- Some hole in Asia, maybe 18 hours of rest
Day 3 Asia-CVG ( body clock is truly mucked ) give they guy a 24/7
Day 5- in a fog, but I can do this CVG-BAH, min rest
Day 6- damn, I feel like ****, how many more days to go, quick look at PCD, damn 12 more to go. Schedule change, BACK to CVG. 18 hours of rest
Day 7- CVG-LEG. What the ****.
Day 8- LEG- ASIA 24/7 ( happy ending ) because at this point, I feel like ****, and need something
Day 9- ASIA- CVG MIN REST
DAY 10- layover in CVG
DAY 11 CVG-BAH min rest what the hell did I do.
Day12- BAH- ASIA
DAY 13, ok, I can do this. Only a few more days to go! Oh ****, what’s this, what the ****, they just extended me 3 more days, plus a late commute home.
Day 14- 9 more days to go
Day 21- commute home
8 days off

Back out to do it all again.

Are you getting the picture ? If you don’t believe me, come see for yourself- the patterns are build non stop flying around the world with the absolute min rest the company can give you.

Come on, we are hiring. Come ruin your body clock with me!

Originally Posted by boeingdvr

Doesn’t sound bad. Your right, as you sit in your house, on your body clock, and a decent night sleep.

Originally Posted by BluePAX

I don't think you are missing anything. It used to be better, more days off a month than required, longer layovers. But with the crew shortage it's min days off and more min rest coupled with more disgruntled crews and very below average pay to show for it. The only way to enjoy it to some degree is live in a junior base, but the pay is still what you described.

You can use it as a stepping stone at your own risk. Southern is having lots of dropouts/fails as is Atlas, but if you have a good attitude they may retrain you. Just know that pink slips most likely mean the stepping stone is now a career.

Originally Posted by JonnyKnoxville

Congratulations on running the gauntlet and coming out the other side unscathed.

Originally Posted by boeingdvr

Doesn’t sound bad. Your right, as you sit in your house, on your body clock, and a decent night sleep.

Day 0- Commute to CVG to LAX
DAY 1. CVG-Bahrain, mim rest
Day 2- BAH- Some hole in Asia, maybe 18 hours of rest
Day 3 Asia-CVG ( body clock is truly mucked ) give they guy a 24/7
Day 5- in a fog, but I can do this CVG-BAH, min rest
Day 6- damn, I feel like ****, how many more days to go, quick look at PCD, damn 12 more to go. Schedule change, BACK to CVG. 18 hours of rest
Day 7- CVG-LEG. What the ****.
Day 8- LEG- ASIA 24/7 ( happy ending ) because at this point, I feel like ****, and need something
Day 9- ASIA- CVG MIN REST
DAY 10- layover in CVG
DAY 11 CVG-BAH min rest what the hell did I do.
Day12- BAH- ASIA
DAY 13, ok, I can do this. Only a few more days to go! Oh ****, what’s this, what the ****, they just extended me 3 more days, plus a late commute home.
Day 14- 9 more days to go
Day 21- commute home
8 days off

Back out to do it all again.

Are you getting the picture ? If you don’t believe me, come see for yourself- the patterns are build non stop flying around the world with the absolute min rest the company can give you.

Come on, we are hiring. Come ruin your body clock with me!

Originally Posted by maxjet

Doesn’t AAWW follow the more favorable rest rules?