Originally Posted by maxjet

Sorry to rain on your pity party but I would love to have this schedule. Would be very serious money involved. If I get too tired I call fatigue. FAA is very supportive of that right now. You forget to mention that you sleep on the plane also. CVG-BAH is 15 hrs, so double crew required, giving each pilot 6 plus hours off. There are plenty of valid reasons to not be at AAWW right now but the nature of ACMI flying should not be one if you have done your research. Doesn’t AAWW follow the more favorable rest rules?

Originally Posted by maxjet

Sorry to rain on your pity party but I would love to have this schedule. Would be very serious money involved. If I get too tired I call fatigue. FAA is very supportive of that right now. You forget to mention that you sleep on the plane also. CVG-BAH is 15 hrs, so double crew required, giving each pilot 6 plus hours off. There are plenty of valid reasons to not be at AAWW right now but the nature of ACMI flying should not be one if you have done your research. Doesn’t AAWW follow the more favorable rest rules?

Originally Posted by boeingdvr

Doesn’t sound bad. Your right, as you sit in your house, on your body clock, and a decent night sleep.

Day 0- Commute to CVG to LAX
DAY 1. CVG-Bahrain, mim rest
Day 2- BAH- Some hole in Asia, maybe 18 hours of rest
Day 3 Asia-CVG ( body clock is truly mucked ) give they guy a 24/7
Day 5- in a fog, but I can do this CVG-BAH, min rest
Day 6- damn, I feel like ****, how many more days to go, quick look at PCD, damn 12 more to go. Schedule change, BACK to CVG. 18 hours of rest
Day 7- CVG-LEG. What the ****.
Day 8- LEG- ASIA 24/7 ( happy ending ) because at this point, I feel like ****, and need something
Day 9- ASIA- CVG MIN REST
DAY 10- layover in CVG
DAY 11 CVG-BAH min rest what the hell did I do.
Day12- BAH- ASIA
DAY 13, ok, I can do this. Only a few more days to go! Oh ****, what’s this, what the ****, they just extended me 3 more days, plus a late commute home.
Day 14- 9 more days to go
Day 21- commute home
8 days off

Back out to do it all again.

Are you getting the picture ? If you don’t believe me, come see for yourself- the patterns are build non stop flying around the world with the absolute min rest the company can give you.

Come on, we are hiring. Come ruin your body clock with me!

Originally Posted by boeingdvr

Sweet- come on. call HR today !!

Have you ever tired sleeping in the bunks- you wake feeling like $100 dollars 😂

Originally Posted by maxjet

Sir, you didn’t know you sleep in a bunk when you took this job? Of course you could always get the business class seat with passenger surrounding you like the legacy carriers do.
I couldn’t agree more with NOT applying at Atlas. You, however come across as an entitled spoiled brat. I hope this is all for show and that you are not like this online.
I made 419k last year and hope to make 300k this year. That might not be enough money to have to put up with a steady diet of this behavior

Originally Posted by Globemaster2827

If you made that at Atlas you did it working 25+ days a month... Most of us have families and don't want to die at 53... That's what you make at a real job as a Captain doing the Atlas minimum every month.

Originally Posted by Screwed

He is a KALITTA PILOT. Connie was/is willing to pay his crews.

But Maxjet why are you taking such a huge cut in pay?

Originally Posted by maxjet

Lots of doubles last year while in the training department. Great money but not the best for either me or students dealing with a cranky tired instructor. Out flying whatever comes my way these last 10 months before retirement. I am having a great time flying with great crew members

Originally Posted by WacoQCF

You can’t come to Atlas / Southern hoping to leapfrog to another company. While a good number of people do pull it off, even more feel trapped and are unable to decode why better airlines will not contact them.



With the high failure rates, a recent bust makes it even more dangerous to try this stunt in order to get wide-body flight time.



Once employed under AAWW you have to assume that is the career you’ll have until 65. Maybe you can break out, but 2000 of your coworkers are trying the same thing.





1st year pay is about $42k (4 months at $1600; 8 months at 50 hours guarantee. Pay is 80 p/hr)

2nd year pay is about $74k (12 months at $6200 with 62 hour guarantee. Pay is $100 p/hr).



Two months per year you can only get guarantee pay due to training in Miami. Maybe one month of the year you will exceed guarantee by say 15 hours. So enjoy a max of 77 hours.