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07-23-2019, 08:04 AM
#431
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Posts: 465
Originally Posted by boeingdvr
Company owns you for 17 days.
Your commuting on day 0 = 18
Good chance of commuting on day 19 home.
Very very good chance you get extend 3 days per CBA = 22.
I under estimated a day.
Life on the whale and life on the 777 are very close these days.
But then again, if you don’t believe me, come see for yourself.
Your commuting on day 0 = 18
Good chance of commuting on day 19 home.
Very very good chance you get extend 3 days per CBA = 22.
I under estimated a day.
Life on the whale and life on the 777 are very close these days.
But then again, if you don’t believe me, come see for yourself.
07-23-2019, 09:51 AM
#432
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Posts: 698
Originally Posted by WhipWhitaker
I see for myself daily, not anything like what say. Maybe you should go see how great life at a regional is, if you don’t believe me, go see for yourself.
My goodness
07-23-2019, 10:00 AM
#433
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Posts: 465
Originally Posted by boeingdvr
This is like saying- well my boyfriend doesn’t beat me ass bad as my last- so this is better.
My goodness
My goodness
07-23-2019, 11:42 AM
#434
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Originally Posted by WhipWhitaker
I see for myself daily, not anything like what say. Maybe you should go see how great life at a regional is, if you don’t believe me, go see for yourself.
07-23-2019, 11:50 AM
#435
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Posts: 698
Originally Posted by WhipWhitaker
No, it’s not. Just like “Allegiant is hiring” and every other stupid shtick you’ve strained you brain to come up with, you can dish it out, but you’d never take your own advice. That’s who you are.
07-24-2019, 04:10 AM
#437
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Joined APC: Aug 2014
Posts: 261
Like most things on this forum, most of the half-baked rhetoric and opinion comes from people that either have never been at Southern, or were at Southern but are not currently there. These people are all just compelled to be the loudest voice in the room, lest their delicate egos collapse. Blah, Blah, Blah.
If you have NOT been at Southern for the last two months you cannot truly understand what is going on here and are NOT qualified to say anything about conditions here.
It's fairly horrible. Worse now with the Atlas CBA than the Southern CBA. The only positive about the Atlas CBA was a slightly higher pay rate, but this has been negated by all other aspects of it, like loss of home basing and commuting in/out on your "on" days, and not your own time, which you make nothing - no per diem, no pay credit. Then there is 1/3 DH pay versus 1/2, no displacement for training pay, getting stuck doing training on your OFF days without any pay for it. The list goes on and on.
Your time on the road will be way more than the original Southern 20 days. Lines are now being published with broken up days off, so that means instead of 2 days of no pay commuting you will have 4.
The Atlas purchase is the worst thing to happen to Southern.
If you have NOT been at Southern for the last two months you cannot truly understand what is going on here and are NOT qualified to say anything about conditions here.
It's fairly horrible. Worse now with the Atlas CBA than the Southern CBA. The only positive about the Atlas CBA was a slightly higher pay rate, but this has been negated by all other aspects of it, like loss of home basing and commuting in/out on your "on" days, and not your own time, which you make nothing - no per diem, no pay credit. Then there is 1/3 DH pay versus 1/2, no displacement for training pay, getting stuck doing training on your OFF days without any pay for it. The list goes on and on.
Your time on the road will be way more than the original Southern 20 days. Lines are now being published with broken up days off, so that means instead of 2 days of no pay commuting you will have 4.
The Atlas purchase is the worst thing to happen to Southern.
07-24-2019, 07:44 AM
#438
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Joined APC: Aug 2010
Position: 747 CA
Posts: 344
Originally Posted by Diesel8
Like most things on this forum, most of the half-baked rhetoric and opinion comes from people that either have never been at Southern, or were at Southern but are not currently there. These people are all just compelled to be the loudest voice in the room, lest their delicate egos collapse. Blah, Blah, Blah.
If you have NOT been at Southern for the last two months you cannot truly understand what is going on here and are NOT qualified to say anything about conditions here.
It's fairly horrible. Worse now with the Atlas CBA than the Southern CBA. The only positive about the Atlas CBA was a slightly higher pay rate, but this has been negated by all other aspects of it, like loss of home basing and commuting in/out on your "on" days, and not your own time, which you make nothing - no per diem, no pay credit. Then there is 1/3 DH pay versus 1/2, no displacement for training pay, getting stuck doing training on your OFF days without any pay for it. The list goes on and on.
Your time on the road will be way more than the original Southern 20 days. Lines are now being published with broken up days off, so that means instead of 2 days of no pay commuting you will have 4.
The Atlas purchase is the worst thing to happen to Southern.
If you have NOT been at Southern for the last two months you cannot truly understand what is going on here and are NOT qualified to say anything about conditions here.
It's fairly horrible. Worse now with the Atlas CBA than the Southern CBA. The only positive about the Atlas CBA was a slightly higher pay rate, but this has been negated by all other aspects of it, like loss of home basing and commuting in/out on your "on" days, and not your own time, which you make nothing - no per diem, no pay credit. Then there is 1/3 DH pay versus 1/2, no displacement for training pay, getting stuck doing training on your OFF days without any pay for it. The list goes on and on.
Your time on the road will be way more than the original Southern 20 days. Lines are now being published with broken up days off, so that means instead of 2 days of no pay commuting you will have 4.
The Atlas purchase is the worst thing to happen to Southern.
07-24-2019, 07:52 AM
#439
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Joined APC: Apr 2017
Posts: 465
Originally Posted by Diesel8
Like most things on this forum, most of the half-baked rhetoric and opinion comes from people that either have never been at Southern, or were at Southern but are not currently there. These people are all just compelled to be the loudest voice in the room, lest their delicate egos collapse. Blah, Blah, Blah.
If you have NOT been at Southern for the last two months you cannot truly understand what is going on here and are NOT qualified to say anything about conditions here.
It's fairly horrible. Worse now with the Atlas CBA than the Southern CBA. The only positive about the Atlas CBA was a slightly higher pay rate, but this has been negated by all other aspects of it, like loss of home basing and commuting in/out on your "on" days, and not your own time, which you make nothing - no per diem, no pay credit. Then there is 1/3 DH pay versus 1/2, no displacement for training pay, getting stuck doing training on your OFF days without any pay for it. The list goes on and on.
Your time on the road will be way more than the original Southern 20 days. Lines are now being published with broken up days off, so that means instead of 2 days of no pay commuting you will have 4.
The Atlas purchase is the worst thing to happen to Southern.
If you have NOT been at Southern for the last two months you cannot truly understand what is going on here and are NOT qualified to say anything about conditions here.
It's fairly horrible. Worse now with the Atlas CBA than the Southern CBA. The only positive about the Atlas CBA was a slightly higher pay rate, but this has been negated by all other aspects of it, like loss of home basing and commuting in/out on your "on" days, and not your own time, which you make nothing - no per diem, no pay credit. Then there is 1/3 DH pay versus 1/2, no displacement for training pay, getting stuck doing training on your OFF days without any pay for it. The list goes on and on.
Your time on the road will be way more than the original Southern 20 days. Lines are now being published with broken up days off, so that means instead of 2 days of no pay commuting you will have 4.
The Atlas purchase is the worst thing to happen to Southern.
17 days is still less than 20 even with 2 days of commuting and that is really stretching it. If you live in a base, the split lines are great. It’s almost like working for a normal airline. There were plenty of either option in the bid package this month.
No more forced back to back lines, no more junior manning for as long as they want to keep you out, no more unpaid r2 for 5 days after you finished flying for the month.
The LOA and the Atlas Contract were the best thing that ever happened to this place. My average monthly pay DOUBLED. It may not be current with the industry, but it’s a dream compared to the abortion Southern had when I got here.
07-24-2019, 08:33 AM
#440
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Joined APC: Aug 2014
Posts: 261
Originally Posted by WhipWhitaker
“Stuck doing training on your off days” So you don’t understand how to bid for training. Shoot me a pm I’ll be happy to explain it to you.
17 days is still less than 20 even with 2 days of commuting and that is really stretching it. If you live in a base, the split lines are great. It’s almost like working for a normal airline. There were plenty of either option in the bid package this month.
No more forced back to back lines, no more junior manning for as long as they want to keep you out, no more unpaid r2 for 5 days after you finished flying for the month.
The LOA and the Atlas Contract were the best thing that ever happened to this place. My average monthly pay DOUBLED. It may not be current with the industry, but it’s a dream compared to the abortion Southern had when I got here.
17 days is still less than 20 even with 2 days of commuting and that is really stretching it. If you live in a base, the split lines are great. It’s almost like working for a normal airline. There were plenty of either option in the bid package this month.
No more forced back to back lines, no more junior manning for as long as they want to keep you out, no more unpaid r2 for 5 days after you finished flying for the month.
The LOA and the Atlas Contract were the best thing that ever happened to this place. My average monthly pay DOUBLED. It may not be current with the industry, but it’s a dream compared to the abortion Southern had when I got here.
Live in base? What like LAX & CVG? Yeah real garden spots.
You couldn't pay me to live in either of those places, one is so expensive and over-crowded that on your days off your going to be standing on a street corner with a sign in you hand. The other, well let's just say there is not a lot people standing in line to live there, I will be polite and leave it at that.
You're probably just one of those kool aid drinking management sycophants schmoozing your way into the Miami Mafia.
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