Turbine1

An industry standard CBA would repair on time metrics as staffing returns to normal levels. Yet here we are 4 years to the day Atlas bought Southern when negotiations opened and we’re no closer to signing a CBA. Sure we’ve signed a few TA’s but no discussion on Scope and our CEO has proposed to start a new entity with the airframes all dry leased thru Titan. Those are facts.

Why else is Amazon hiring all these ex FedEx and UPS air logistics personnel, so they can run a shadow operation forever? It’s my view they will soon ( like Pinnacle ) bring us in house. It cuts their costs by having one operation reliably controlled end to end by them. Nobody hates Amazon here, but their history with contractors ( like their ground staff ) is well established and doesn't bode well for the continued existence of Atlas/Southern in its present form.

I think a tipping point with the crews was passed this week after the usual snails progress on negotiations. “Rightsizing” the fleet isn’t going to help bring reliability up, those who can are headed for the exits now. Most are angry and frustrated. Morale and safety is at rock bottom and the company isn’t addressing either. IMHO mgt has checked out and are merely holding the wheel till Amazon gets in the drivers seat.

Elevation

I'm not sure there's any plan at all. Most likely chaos and reactive measures prevail at the executive level. The lack of organization leads to a series of people playing the Byzantine General's Game. We lose business and the shareholders suffer. Short term thinking and unchecked egos breed chaos and dysfunction.

I believe this because a master plan to manipulate stocks and sell the company would at least be organized and expedient.

In a way this situation is worse. We face ethical failure and practical ineptitude. A nefarious, master plan would, at least, be executed competently.

wjcandee

I personally think Amazon would be insane to start their own airline. Culturally, it is not a fit.

JackStraw

By culturally, you mean paying a group of their employees collectively bargained wages?

NoJoy

^^^this is the correct answer.

Ave8tor218

Their agreement doesn’t allow any of the CRJ/ERJ pilots moving to the 737 anyways if they have less than three years there, as far as I’ve heard

No Land 3

I would think some of the old timers might go for it, but otherwise they have it nice on the E175 with all daytime flying and high hour lines. Perhaps the CRJ guys will find it more attractive.

MovinFreight

I bet the younger CRJ guys will bite. All the old timers are likely cured of shiny jet syndrome and are enjoying “the good lines”, relatively speaking.

wjcandee

How kind of you to make my point for me.

boeingdvr

Ah yes. The good lines. 12 whole days off and 77 hours. Each month wishing for a better bid than the last. A decade goes by and nothing changes.