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Old 03-10-2019, 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by dba74 View Post
If your regional has a flow, then maybe not
Depends on final goal. I know a WO pilot who had a phone interview with UPS... they told him they were looking for some international widebody/ pic time...which his application lacked. He can’t get that at a regional.
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Old 03-10-2019, 04:22 PM
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There have been a number of pilots hired at UPS directly from AA WOs over the last 2-3 years...
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Old 03-16-2019, 10:45 PM
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Quick update for anyone considering Atlas: the union and the company just finished 4 days of negotiating. This was the first negotiating session since May of 2018.

The company has said that they will only commit to 12 more days of negotiating through June. That’s a grand total of 16 days of negotiating for the entire first half of 2019.

As of this most recent negotiating session, the union and the company have reached agreements on 15 out of 35 Articles, almost all of them low-impact (Union representation, grievance procedure, etc).

We are almost 3 years into this process and have barely completed the easiest 1/3rd of the new CBA. If you think that the other 2/3rds are going to be completed anytime soon, I believe that you are sorely mistaken. 12 more negotiating days scheduled for the year does not bode well.
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Old 03-17-2019, 12:58 AM
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Originally Posted by RyeMex View Post
Quick update for anyone considering Atlas: the union and the company just finished 4 days of negotiating. This was the first negotiating session since May of 2018.

The company has said that they will only commit to 12 more days of negotiating through June. That’s a grand total of 16 days of negotiating for the entire first half of 2019.

As of this most recent negotiating session, the union and the company have reached agreements on 15 out of 35 Articles, almost all of them low-impact (Union representation, grievance procedure, etc).

We are almost 3 years into this process and have barely completed the easiest 1/3rd of the new CBA. If you think that the other 2/3rds are going to be completed anytime soon, I believe that you are sorely mistaken. 12 more negotiating days scheduled for the year does not bode well.
Why would anyone want to work for this place? Low self worth? Did they sue the pilots again lately?
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Old 03-17-2019, 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by RyeMex View Post
Quick update for anyone considering Atlas: the union and the company just finished 4 days of negotiating. This was the first negotiating session since May of 2018.

The company has said that they will only commit to 12 more days of negotiating through June. That’s a grand total of 16 days of negotiating for the entire first half of 2019.

As of this most recent negotiating session, the union and the company have reached agreements on 15 out of 35 Articles, almost all of them low-impact (Union representation, grievance procedure, etc).

We are almost 3 years into this process and have barely completed the easiest 1/3rd of the new CBA. If you think that the other 2/3rds are going to be completed anytime soon, I believe that you are sorely mistaken. 12 more negotiating days scheduled for the year does not bode well.
I'm guessing the company is waiting for the arbitration process to finish to not leave anything on the table if they don't have to.

Attempting to negotiate while not negotiating makes them look good to the NMB if we end up their instead.
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Old 05-07-2019, 07:47 AM
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I'm guessing the company is waiting for the arbitration process to finish to not leave anything on the table if they don't have to.

Attempting to negotiate while not negotiating makes them look good to the NMB if we end up their instead.
Atlas management suing their pilot group during attempts to negotiate a CBA. Tells me all I need to know. TBNT. I’d rather stay at my regional.
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Old 05-07-2019, 08:18 AM
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Atlas management suing their pilot group during attempts to negotiate a CBA. Tells me all I need to know. TBNT. I’d rather stay at my regional.
You’re one of the smart ones. You wouldn’t believe how many have started here in the last year or so and have the nerve to complain on the flight deck to those of us who said to stay away. Absolutely no sympathy for them.
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Old 05-07-2019, 10:35 AM
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You’re one of the smart ones. You wouldn’t believe how many have started here in the last year or so and have the nerve to complain on the flight deck to those of us who said to stay away. Absolutely no sympathy for them.
Would you rather them be sunshine and roses?
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Old 05-07-2019, 03:42 PM
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Would you rather them be sunshine and roses?
False dichotomy.
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Old 05-07-2019, 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by HvypurplePylot View Post
Would you rather them be sunshine and roses?
Do they really have a platform to complain on given that they knew what they were getting into? It’s a little bit disingenuous to knowingly put yourself in a position and then complain about it.
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