ATSG ABX and Amazon pilots protest
04-13-2019, 12:04 PM
#13
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Originally Posted by kevbo
They obviously have plenty of applicants willing to take those crappy jobs.
It's pathetic that a workgroup this high in the gene pool is unable to squeeze their employer. Don't pickett, shut their asses down!
When you're subject to the RLA, you don't just walk off the job. You don't just slow it down. You don't even hint that you're doing anything of the sort. If you do, you end up being sued and all negotiations stop until the legal stuff is sorted out.
04-13-2019, 12:24 PM
#14
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Originally Posted by AAfng
Management wants this to go on forever and slowly shut you guys down. You guys need to stop being mission hackers and slowly shut it down from your end.
But whatever, I really dont care
Just stop being such good little boys and girls and if the freight is late/doesnt move then so be it. There is so much you guys could write up but you dont
That's not an attitude that I find among ABX crews. If something isn't right, it gets written up. If it's a repeat writeup, that gets noted in the writeup. If it means we don't move on time, that's not my problem.
For a time, they were posting mechanics on the flight deck before push to be right there to take care of any last minute problems. Turns out some of them were told it was because they thought we were holding squawks until right before push. Turns out they were wrong about that, and maintenance is hardly seen now if they're not needed.
04-13-2019, 03:59 PM
#15
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Originally Posted by ROBsINtheHOOD
Great points Reactivity , although the key to getting the attention of Amazon and DHL customers would be a service interruption to what has been legally ascribed as an " essential service " , in the last back to work judgement. You can't do that when the law won't allow it. Catch 22 for sure. A truly miserable spot to be in. Capitalism is failing the workers here.
If Amazon wasn’t in the picture, it would be easy to get rid if essential service. DHL? I see more Pontiac Azteks on the street than DHL vans...essential, yeah right!
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04-13-2019, 06:53 PM
#16
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“ However, late in the day on November 23rd, the judge issued a Temporary Restraining Order, ordered the pilots back to work. Noting his concern for the public, Judge Timothy Black, of the U.S. Court for the Southern District of Ohio wrote; “Absent an injunction, ABX, its customers, and the public will suffer immediate, irreparable harm. Imagine Christmas without Amazon!” “
04-17-2019, 12:35 PM
#17
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Originally Posted by dogo
Unfortunately, a lot of the guys with stones have left the building.
04-17-2019, 12:53 PM
#18
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It’s a comparison of the new guys vs the legacy guys. Stones refer to “balls”. Never would Heir Soapy pushed around former Airborne Express pilots. I watch in utter amazement as this pilot group rolls over to receive his gift. But it is a new day..it is what it is!
04-17-2019, 05:43 PM
#19
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Originally Posted by mukalel
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2019/04/11/pilots-who-deliver-your-amazon-parcels-are-prepared-strike/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.770bfc9f3122
04-18-2019, 02:03 AM
#20
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who gives a flying @-$/$: what a judge says. He/she is a servant of the public and knows nothing of this industry. We have the controls.
Force the pilots back to work? Didn’t slavery get abolished a long time ago?
Force them to pay or force them out of business. Simple as that.
Force the pilots back to work? Didn’t slavery get abolished a long time ago?
Force them to pay or force them out of business. Simple as that.
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