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Old 04-29-2019, 07:09 AM
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Originally Posted by White Cap View Post
This EXCO has bent over backwards to inform and educate. A lot of hyperbole may be spewed by the rank and file on forums, but my experience has been one of constant engagement by the whole of our elected leaders. This group is so much better off than the dysfunctional mess that resulted in the current amalgamated contract. I am sure APC has the threads from before say 2009. We are in a lot better place.
True. We forget the Stanstead days (which I missed) or the Polar merger (which I missed) etc.
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Old 04-29-2019, 07:33 AM
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So- you’ve never done a 17 day r2 pattern and then extended 3 days ? Did you teleport to and from ?

SA does 21 day trips with extensions of 5-6 days. Virtually being out the entire month.

Now SA is going from 21 to 17 days operating under CBA from the 80’s
When did Southern do 21 day trips?
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Old 04-29-2019, 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by WhipWhitaker View Post
When did Southern do 21 day trips?
Log on to Global Mess- download the SA 777 bid packet. Count how many days their on the hook for.
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Old 04-29-2019, 08:07 AM
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When did Southern do 21 day trips?
20 days minimum. Stop constantly defending the worst contract and pay in the industry. It's so pathetic. You and birdsmash take every negative comment about Southern as a slight against you personally instead of understanding that they're actually helping you, at least in a small way, to get a new contract.
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Old 04-29-2019, 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by kolt66 View Post
20 days minimum. Stop constantly defending the worst contract and pay in the industry. It's so pathetic. You and birdsmash take every negative comment about Southern as a slight against you personally instead of understanding that they're actually helping you, at least in a small way, to get a new contract.
You both need to come back down to reality. If you have to lie and exaggerate to get your point across, that’s not any kind of help I want. Reality is enough.
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Old 04-29-2019, 08:29 AM
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Who cares any more? If someone at this point is ignorant enough to want to work at Atlas or Southern and be underpaid and overworked in comparison to their peers then they deserve what they get. No sympathy.
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Old 04-29-2019, 08:44 AM
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Who cares any more? If someone at this point is ignorant enough to want to work at Atlas or Southern and be underpaid and overworked in comparison to their peers then they deserve what they get. No sympathy.
Haha. Yeah- it’s like saying my hooker is better than yours. Nah-huh. Yours has 4 STD’s and mine only has 3... so- there.
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Old 04-29-2019, 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by boeingdvr View Post
So- you’ve never done a 17 day r2 pattern and then extended 3 days ? Did you teleport to and from ?

SA does 21 day trips with extensions of 5-6 days. Virtually being out the entire month.

Now SA is going from 21 to 17 days operating under CBA from the 80’s
No. Captain on the 767. I was extended once in 2013. One day total. Southern voted in two concessionary deals to arrive at their current state. Why the E-Board signs off on that stuff, I do not know. Have faith in the EXCO, we will get there, hopefully sooner rather than later.
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Old 04-30-2019, 01:55 AM
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I've only been extended 3 times in four years.
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Old 04-30-2019, 02:15 PM
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This doesn't answer the question about the 767 in ONT, but this is my 701 hours while I worked for Atlas. It does not include deadheads, but it will give some idea of the schedule. I switched from ANC to CVG in April 2018. I was extended on reserve 3 times and never voluntarily worked overtime.

11/20/17 b744 kord klax 4.1
11/21/17 b744 klax phnl 6.0
11/21/17 b744 phnl yssy 9.9
11/24/17 b744 yssy zuck 10.4
11/24/17 b744 zuck zspd 2.4
11/24/17 b744 zspd panc 8.2

12/9/17 b748 panc kcvg 6.3

12/22/17 b744 panc kcvg 6.5
12/24/17 b744 kdov edfh 6.7
12/28/17 b748 evra oaix 6.5
12/29/17 b748 oaix vhhh 6.1
12/31/17 b748 vhhh panc 10.2

1/10/18 b748 kcvg panc 7.0
1/12/18 b744 ksea rjaa 10.2
1/14/18 b744 rjaa vhhh 5.2
1/14/18 b744 vhhh panc 9.5
1/18/18 b744 vhhh vidp 5.9
1/18/18 b744 vidp vhhh 4.9
1/19/18 b748 vhhh panc 9.6
1/24/18 b748 kcvg panc 7.0

2/3/18 b748 klax zspd 13.5
2/5/18 b748 vhhh vidp 6.3
2/5/18 b748 vidp vhhh 4.9
2/8/18 b748 vhhh rksi 3.4
2/8/18 b748 rksi panc 7.9
2/9/18 b744 panc kcvg 6.1

3/2/18 b744 kchs panc 7.9
3/3/18 b744 panc kchs 7.1
3/5/18 b744 kcvg panc 6.6
3/7/18 b744 panc kpae 3.3
3/8/18 b744 kpae rjna 11.3
3/10/18 b744 rjna panc 6.8

3/22/18 b744 kord phnl 9.9
3/24/18 b744 phnl pgua 7.9
3/25/18 b744 pgua rjty 3.5
3/27/18 b748 vhhh vidp 6.3
3/27/18 b748 vidp vhhh 5.0
3/29/18 b748 vhhh vidp 6.2
3/29/18 b748 vidp vhhh 6.0
4/1/18 b744 panc rjaa 7.2
4/4/18 b744 rjgg kpae 9.4
4/6/18 b748 kcvg klax 4.6
4/7/18 b744 klax ksfo 1.5
4/7/18 b744 ksfo rjaa 11.4
4/10/18 b744 zspd panc 8.8

4/26/18 b744 kcvg rjaa 13.6
4/28/18 b744 rjaa rctp 3.3
4/28/18 b744 rctp vhhh 2.2
4/30/18 b744 vhhh uaaa 6.0
4/30/18 b744 uaaa eddp 7.2
5/3/18 b744 etar kdov 8.8
5/6/18 b744 rjaa zspd 3.0
5/7/18 b744 zspd panc 8.7

5/22/18 b744 panc vhhh 10.4
5/24/18 b744 vhhh uaaa 6.1
5/24/18 b744 uaaa eddp 6.8
5/26/18 b744 eddp rksi 11.1
5/29/18 b744 rksi zgsz 4.1
5/29/18 b744 zgsz rjaa 4.2
5/31/18 b744 rjaa rjaa 0.3
5/31/18 b744 rjaa vhhh 4.8
6/2/18 b744 vhhh vidp 5.8
6/2/18 b744 vidp vhhh 5.4
6/5/18 b744 rkjk phnl 8.5
6/7/18 b744 phnl kiah 7.7

6/17/18 b748 kcvg rksi 13.9
6/19/18 b748 rksi panc 8.2
6/20/18 b748 panc kcvg 5.9
6/29/18 b744 kcvg ebbr 8.3
6/30/18 b744 edfh zhcc 6.7
6/30/18 b744 zhcc zspd 2.1
7/2/18 b744 zspd klax 12.8

7/14/18 b744 kcvg panc 6.6
7/16/18 b744 panc rksi 8.5
7/17/18 b748 rksi rjgg 1.2
7/18/18 b744 rjgg kcvg 12.4
7/20/18 b744 kcvg rksi 14.0
7/24/18 b744 obbi vhhh 8.7
7/25/18 b748 vhhh vidp 5.6
7/25/18 b748 vidp vhhh 5.5

8/7/18 b744 kord klax 4.1
8/8/18 b744 klax kcvg 4.1

8/29/18 b748 kcvg rjaa 13.7
8/31/18 b744 rjgg kcvg 11.6

9/7/18 b744 kcvg rksi 14.2
9/10/18 b744 rksi vhhh 3.5
9/12/18 b744 vhhh panc 9.8
9/13/18 b748 panc kcvg 5.9
9/15/18 b748 kcvg rjaa 13.4
9/17/18 b748 rjaa rjgg 1.0
9/17/18 b748 rjgg zspd 2.7
9/18/18 b744 zspd rjaa 3.0
9/19/18 b744 zspd klax 11.6

10/25/18 b748 kcvg panc 6.3
10/26/18 b744 panc kcvg 5.8
10/27/18 b744 kcvg panc 6.6
10/29/18 b744 panc rjaa 7.8
10/31/18 b744 rjaa kcvg 12.4

Last edited by timeless; 04-30-2019 at 02:28 PM.
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