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Old 04-26-2019, 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Elevation View Post
The work at Atlas is great, but the job sucks. 121 is more competitive than 135, but I think a lot of the career-building choices we make are more or less worthless. I'd go with what gives you the best money and quality of life. That won't be Atlas. Also, we might kill you.
And if Atlas doesn’t kill you, ATC in various parts of the world will give it their best effort.

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Honestly, the Brits should’ve annexed that s hithole right after they took back the Falklands...
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Old 04-26-2019, 02:54 PM
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Wow.... comparing Atlas and Flex is like eating at a BBQ joint in Huntsville Alabama or having a kebab at Akmeds in Islamabad Pakistan. Both will put food in your belly but that’s about it. You couldn’t find a more stark comparison in aviation jobs imho.

I did fractional for 12 years at NetJets. It was OK, and I was glad to have to a job at the time, but I enjoy freight 100x more.


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Old 04-26-2019, 03:09 PM
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Wow.... comparing Atlas and Flex is like eating at a BBQ joint in Huntsville Alabama or having a kebab at Akmeds in Islamabad Pakistan. Both will put food in your belly but that’s about it. You couldn’t find a more stark comparison in aviation jobs imho.

I did fractional for 12 years at NetJets. It was OK, and I was glad to have to a job at the time, but I enjoy freight 100x more.


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Yep- and both are guaranteed to give you the runs- and have you sitting there saying.... Muck, I won’t do that again...
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Old 04-26-2019, 06:19 PM
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Glad we put this one to rest.
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I think one thread is enough.
Besides this is “low time”
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Old 04-26-2019, 06:27 PM
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Yep- and both are guaranteed to give you the runs- and have you sitting there saying.... Muck, I won’t do that again...

Darn it I just spit my coffee out laughing. Stop it!!!
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Old 04-26-2019, 06:50 PM
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That is too funny! Very true it’s a stark comparison.

This industry is more like a buffet of choices, but also a seven course meal of humility to get where you think you want to be.

And, if/when you think you have “arrived”, then some other shiney widget appears or some sh*tshow happens.

Top pay, Soft pay, Vac, DC % Ret, Scope, etc., contract stalled, buyouts, mergers, bankruptcy, economy tanks, kids headed to college, divorce.....

It’s called life is my guess, plan for the worst, pray for the best/decisions you can make and just take it day by day and do the best you can have fun and live stress free as possible.

Speaking of stress, gotta head to the loo cuz I’m in HKG and tried one too many unknowns - Doh!
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Old 04-26-2019, 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Hogcapt View Post
Don't forget to factor in the majority of your time as a 747 FO will be as a relief pilot or galley wench. You'll be lucky to get one, maybe two takeoffs/landings per month.
You must be doing something wrong or just providing misinformation.
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Old 04-27-2019, 04:37 AM
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You must be doing something wrong or just providing misinformation.
That's what many of the FO's I fly with are averaging. Between multi person crews and ongoing IOE they don't get to fly that often.
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Originally Posted by TiredSoul View Post
You must be doing something wrong or just providing misinformation.
Even at K4 I'll average maybe 1 or 2 landings a month. Sometimes you'll be paired up with OE guy and get 0 landings for the month.
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Originally Posted by TiredSoul View Post
You must be doing something wrong or just providing misinformation.
1-3 landings per month is EXACTLY correct. Unless you're being dishonest about if you need to leg or not (which some people are sadly). If you're an FO you get a TON of 3rd/4th seat time, especially considering the amount of OE going on.
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