what does "grandfathered" mean
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what does "grandfathered" mean
ALOHA airlines publishes the following requirement for Captain on its webpage:
"1,000 hours flying under FAA (U.S.A.) Part 121 as SIC, or FAA Part 135 as PIC (unless “grandfathered”)"
New on this, what does "grandfathered" means exactly.
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"1,000 hours flying under FAA (U.S.A.) Part 121 as SIC, or FAA Part 135 as PIC (unless “grandfathered”)"
New on this, what does "grandfathered" means exactly.
Thanks
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It means you have to meet the FAR requirements for 121 PIC.
There is a provision to grandfather folks who don't meet the time requirements but were actually serving as a 121 PIC on the effective date. If you served as a PIC prior to but not on the effective date, I understand they will waiver that but you'd have to apply, it's not automatic.
121.436 Pilot Qualification: Certificates and experience requirements.
(a) No certificate holder may use nor may any pilot act as pilot in command of an aircraft (or as second in command of an aircraft in a flag or supplemental operation that requires three or more pilots) unless the pilot:
(1) Holds an airline transport pilot certificate not subject to the limitations in § 61.167 of this chapter;
(2) Holds an appropriate aircraft type rating for the aircraft being flown; and
(3) If serving as pilot in command in part 121 operations, has 1,000 hours as second in command in operations under this part, pilot in command in operations under § 91.1053(a)(2)(i) of this chapter, pilot in command in operations under § 135.243(a)(1) of this chapter, or any combination thereof. For those pilots who are employed as pilot in command in part 121 operations on July 31, 2013, compliance with the requirements of this paragraph (a)(3) is not required.
There is a provision to grandfather folks who don't meet the time requirements but were actually serving as a 121 PIC on the effective date. If you served as a PIC prior to but not on the effective date, I understand they will waiver that but you'd have to apply, it's not automatic.
121.436 Pilot Qualification: Certificates and experience requirements.
(a) No certificate holder may use nor may any pilot act as pilot in command of an aircraft (or as second in command of an aircraft in a flag or supplemental operation that requires three or more pilots) unless the pilot:
(1) Holds an airline transport pilot certificate not subject to the limitations in § 61.167 of this chapter;
(2) Holds an appropriate aircraft type rating for the aircraft being flown; and
(3) If serving as pilot in command in part 121 operations, has 1,000 hours as second in command in operations under this part, pilot in command in operations under § 91.1053(a)(2)(i) of this chapter, pilot in command in operations under § 135.243(a)(1) of this chapter, or any combination thereof. For those pilots who are employed as pilot in command in part 121 operations on July 31, 2013, compliance with the requirements of this paragraph (a)(3) is not required.
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That wasn't Aloha you were looking at. That was Transair.