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If they are going to hire candidates with minimal experience, how about re-introducing the sim evaluation. Let’s make sure someone can at least manually fly a plane around the pattern in IMC. Frankly, some of what I’m seeing online is disturbing and unsettling.

Atlas meet Darwin, Darwin Atlas.

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Originally Posted by useless (Post 2818042)

They can’t spare any sim time for interviewees due to all the remedial training being given. F

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Originally Posted by JackStraw (Post 2818054)

They can’t spare any sim time for interviewees due to all the remedial training being given. F

My guess is it would cut the already dismal number of applicants in half. Can’t have that. Put meat in the seat at all costs.

Either Jonny doesn’t grasp written language or he just wants to scare people off.
Jonny post the email for all to read, bet they come away with a different interpretation. I bet you had a rough time getting through training. You probably came away from your type like you did your English class, just barley.

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Originally Posted by JonnyKnoxville (Post 2817256)

So, the head of training and the fleet captain finally admit to the high bust rate for initial training. They want to address all the failures by failing more new hires earlier in training to avoid the high failure rate on the FAA type rating.

No discussion about raising the minimum requirements to get hired above the legal minimums. No discussion about a new and improved CBA to attract pilots with experience likely to successfully carry one through training.

Come to Atlas or Southern. If you are not sure if you have what it takes, we will sort it out for you. If you don't have what it takes, we will give you a pink slip you will have for the rest of your career requiring an explanation for all future interviews. Good Luck!

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Originally Posted by Flyboy88 (Post 2818102)

You probably came away from your type like you did your English class, just barley.

Irony award.:D

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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano (Post 2818122)

Irony award.:D

“It's better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than open it and remove all doubt”

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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano (Post 2818122)

Irony award.:D

Nice one!! Funny stuff

I left there as an FO a little over a year ago. My seniority at the time could have held 747 CA. I was hired in 2013 as a C-5 IP and my typical classmates were C-5/C-17/KC-10 IPs or former MD-11/747 ACMI guys. When I left in 2018, the typical new hire was a regional FO with 0 TPIC. One of the reasons I left is because the risk to my license was getting too high. I did not want to be put into a position where I was "single pilot" as the SHTF going into Africa or Asia at night in the weather with someone with zero heavy international experience and the bare mins to get an ATP as my FO.

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Originally Posted by kme9418 (Post 2818212)

Flying for Atlas is demanding and not for everyone. The difference in pay and QOL between being a senior rj captain making fairly good money and starting over at Atlas just isn’t worth it for most. The low time f/o making almost no money looks at Atlas as a big pay raise and heavy jet time to build a resume. The company can either offer a compensation package that would attract and retain qualified pilots, change the training footprint to accommodate those who aren’t ready to be there, or just continue washing out those who bit off more than they can chew. I’m betting that they go with the last option.