High Failure Rates - Atlas / Southern
#21
Line Holder
Joined APC: Aug 2007
Position: 74 FO
Posts: 97
If they are going to hire candidates with minimal experience, how about re-introducing the sim evaluation. Let’s make sure someone can at least manually fly a plane around the pattern in IMC. Frankly, some of what I’m seeing online is disturbing and unsettling.
Atlas meet Darwin, Darwin Atlas.
Atlas meet Darwin, Darwin Atlas.
#23
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2017
Position: Wichita
Posts: 653
If they are going to hire candidates with minimal experience, how about re-introducing the sim evaluation. Let’s make sure someone can at least manually fly a plane around the pattern in IMC. Frankly, some of what I’m seeing online is disturbing and unsettling.
Atlas meet Darwin, Darwin Atlas.
Atlas meet Darwin, Darwin Atlas.
#24
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2017
Position: 777 Left window seat
Posts: 632
#25
New Hire
Joined APC: May 2019
Posts: 2
Either Jonny doesn’t grasp written language or he just wants to scare people off.
Jonny post the email for all to read, bet they come away with a different interpretation. I bet you had a rough time getting through training. You probably came away from your type like you did your English class, just barley.
Jonny post the email for all to read, bet they come away with a different interpretation. I bet you had a rough time getting through training. You probably came away from your type like you did your English class, just barley.
So, the head of training and the fleet captain finally admit to the high bust rate for initial training. They want to address all the failures by failing more new hires earlier in training to avoid the high failure rate on the FAA type rating.
No discussion about raising the minimum requirements to get hired above the legal minimums. No discussion about a new and improved CBA to attract pilots with experience likely to successfully carry one through training.
Come to Atlas or Southern. If you are not sure if you have what it takes, we will sort it out for you. If you don't have what it takes, we will give you a pink slip you will have for the rest of your career requiring an explanation for all future interviews. Good Luck!
No discussion about raising the minimum requirements to get hired above the legal minimums. No discussion about a new and improved CBA to attract pilots with experience likely to successfully carry one through training.
Come to Atlas or Southern. If you are not sure if you have what it takes, we will sort it out for you. If you don't have what it takes, we will give you a pink slip you will have for the rest of your career requiring an explanation for all future interviews. Good Luck!
#29
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2009
Position: A320 CA
Posts: 282
I left there as an FO a little over a year ago. My seniority at the time could have held 747 CA. I was hired in 2013 as a C-5 IP and my typical classmates were C-5/C-17/KC-10 IPs or former MD-11/747 ACMI guys. When I left in 2018, the typical new hire was a regional FO with 0 TPIC. One of the reasons I left is because the risk to my license was getting too high. I did not want to be put into a position where I was "single pilot" as the SHTF going into Africa or Asia at night in the weather with someone with zero heavy international experience and the bare mins to get an ATP as my FO.
#30
Banned
Joined APC: Mar 2018
Posts: 1,358
I left there as an FO a little over a year ago. My seniority at the time could have held 747 CA. I was hired in 2013 as a C-5 IP and my typical classmates were C-5/C-17/KC-10 IPs or former MD-11/747 ACMI guys. When I left in 2018, the typical new hire was a regional FO with 0 TPIC. One of the reasons I left is because the risk to my license was getting too high. I did not want to be put into a position where I was "single pilot" as the SHTF going into Africa or Asia at night in the weather with someone with zero heavy international experience and the bare mins to get an ATP as my FO.
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