High Failure Rates - Atlas / Southern
05-23-2019, 08:11 PM
#131
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Originally Posted by Diesel8
What I will say is that majority of the newbies out there don't want to learn, are condescending, confrontational, and a trivializing lot. They don't have either the skills or that attitude/aptitude. The major issue with these types is this: THEY COMPROMISE SAFETY BY BEING A DISTRACTION.
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05-23-2019, 08:12 PM
#132
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Originally Posted by atlas shrugged
and the sad part is that we have lost many good young aviators that were here for 2-4 years to fedex, ups, and legacies. These pilots should have been the new core of our airline. They were gaining the experience necessary to become competent and efficient captains.
Our competition saw their value as bf and jd did not...
Our competition saw their value as bf and jd did not...
05-24-2019, 06:21 AM
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Originally Posted by atpcliff
I have flown with quite a few newer Atlas pilots. I have never met any one of them even close to your statement above.
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I know what I'm talking about. Most of the other Captains that I talk with echo the same sentiment. Those other Captain opinions are vociferous and totally unsolicited.
Are there good new hires? Yes, certainly, but I would say they are in the minority. The business is changing, it is not what it was. The changes are not an improvement. The industry is backsliding.
I remain objective and give everyone the benefit of the doubt. It's the change in attitude and aptitude that I find most objectionable and the biggest detriment to safety.
05-24-2019, 08:02 AM
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I am an Atlas captain. Some first officers want to be more involved than others. This is a good thing. If they sense they are being sidelined they push a little harder to get back into the loop. This is also a good thing. They're motivated. With information and involvement in processes, these people become really excellent support from the right seat.
I can't speak for the captains Diesel has been talking to. I wasn't on their flight decks. Perhaps they were with someone I haven't met? I like motivated FOs. It's easy enough to form a good team on the flight deck.
I can't speak for the captains Diesel has been talking to. I wasn't on their flight decks. Perhaps they were with someone I haven't met? I like motivated FOs. It's easy enough to form a good team on the flight deck.
06-13-2019, 06:34 AM
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06-13-2019, 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by JonnyKnoxville
06-14-2019, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by airbus300
In May, the widow of Archuleta, the pilot who was a passenger on the fatal flight in February, sued Atlas Air and Amazon in federal court, alleging the companies failed to adequately train its pilots and prevent the crash.
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