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Tango Uniform 05-20-2019 04:13 PM

Amazon New Regional Air Hub in FL
 
https://www.abcactionnews.com/news/region-polk/lakeland-strikes-100-million-deal-with-amazon

TeamSasquatch 05-20-2019 07:06 PM

Can someone explain how a hub in Florida would be utilized? Will they fly 737’s out of it to various other airports in the area?

SoFloFlyer 05-20-2019 07:14 PM

There goes Sun N’ Fun

wjcandee 05-20-2019 08:17 PM


Originally Posted by TeamSasquatch (Post 2823664)
Can someone explain how a hub in Florida would be utilized? Will they fly 737’s out of it to various other airports in the area?

"Air Hub" doesn't necessarily mean they're gonna cross-dock stuff there between aircraft. "Air Node" or "Focus City" might be a better description. They will use LAL to move stuff to and from other air destinations. There is a huge Amazon DC right there by LAL, and there is a lot of Amazon distribution infrastructure between Tampa and Orlando. They're talking total 8-10 daily flights in the next 1-2 years. Everything at TPA is going to move to LAL, and then they will add to that. Depending on how things go in the future, they have set the deal up to have significant flexibility to expand or not. So while I wouldn't exclude the possibility that some stuff may move between aircraft there, a large part of this is going to be packages coming in by air to be distributed regionally by ground, and packages packed in the region going out by air for distribution nationwide. How the move to Amazon-organic 1-day delivery affects this, I'm not smart enough to know.

One article indicated that the initial construction will be a "7-jet cargo hangar" (whatever that is), but it gives you an idea of the initial facility size. It looks to me like a whole lot of automobile parking, landside doors for 30-50 trailers, and an apron outside the building for 7 aircraft. What seems to be missing is parking for more aircraft than that, but that may be part of the potential expansion. I'm not confident enough in the scale of the drawings to know whether those are seven 767s or seven 737s, although it seems most likely to be the former, based on the size of the aircraft drawings compared to the width of Runway 9-27.

Drawing of the now-approved facility: https://i0.wp.com/www.lkldnow.com/wp...lity.png?ssl=1

wjcandee 05-20-2019 08:18 PM


Originally Posted by SoFloFlyer (Post 2823667)
There goes Sun N’ Fun

It's 8-10 flights per day initially. I think I read somewhere that they have already planned to minimize or eliminate interference with Sun N' Fun.

SoFloFlyer 05-20-2019 08:45 PM


Originally Posted by wjcandee (Post 2823683)
It's 8-10 flights per day initially. I think I read somewhere that they have already planned to minimize or eliminate interference with Sun N' Fun.

I hope it won’t affect it too much. It’ll be interesting on how that works out

tonsterboy5 05-20-2019 09:28 PM

$102k every 5 years per acre seems a bit steep

nitefr8dog 05-21-2019 03:01 AM


Originally Posted by tonsterboy5 (Post 2823712)
$102k every 5 years per acre seems a bit steep

For commercial property at an airport....seems cheap! Anyway who cares....

TeamSasquatch 05-21-2019 05:26 AM

Thanks for the info.


Originally Posted by wjcandee (Post 2823682)
"Air Hub" doesn't necessarily mean they're gonna cross-dock stuff there between aircraft. "Air Node" or "Focus City" might be a better description. They will use LAL to move stuff to and from other air destinations. There is a huge Amazon DC right there by LAL, and there is a lot of Amazon distribution infrastructure between Tampa and Orlando. They're talking total 8-10 daily flights in the next 1-2 years. Everything at TPA is going to move to LAL, and then they will add to that. Depending on how things go in the future, they have set the deal up to have significant flexibility to expand or not. So while I wouldn't exclude the possibility that some stuff may move between aircraft there, a large part of this is going to be packages coming in by air to be distributed regionally by ground, and packages packed in the region going out by air for distribution nationwide. How the move to Amazon-organic 1-day delivery affects this, I'm not smart enough to know.

One article indicated that the initial construction will be a "7-jet cargo hangar" (whatever that is), but it gives you an idea of the initial facility size. It looks to me like a whole lot of automobile parking, landside doors for 30-50 trailers, and an apron outside the building for 7 aircraft. What seems to be missing is parking for more aircraft than that, but that may be part of the potential expansion. I'm not confident enough in the scale of the drawings to know whether those are seven 767s or seven 737s, although it seems most likely to be the former, based on the size of the aircraft drawings compared to the width of Runway 9-27.

Drawing of the now-approved facility: https://i0.wp.com/www.lkldnow.com/wp...lity.png?ssl=1


El Pilot 05-21-2019 06:29 AM

Is it a possibility FedEx will put some 208's there to supplement? Been thinking about a move to FL and continue flying the 208.


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