Furloughs coming to Atlas
07-18-2019, 05:05 AM
#153
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If you're in the pool, there are ways to maintain currency and competency without taking a flying job someplace. You essentially have a golden ticket that thousands of us are trying to get. Pursuing any kind of additional aviation job is a lot of long-term risk for very little short-term rewards.
If you feel confident passing training at either of these places (Atlas or PSA) you'll pass training at UPS. If you feel like you need to build your skills, then you definitely don't want to do that at a carrier which could derail your position at UPS.
So why take the risk? There are lots of avenues to pay your bills that won't hazard your UPS job.
If you feel confident passing training at either of these places (Atlas or PSA) you'll pass training at UPS. If you feel like you need to build your skills, then you definitely don't want to do that at a carrier which could derail your position at UPS.
So why take the risk? There are lots of avenues to pay your bills that won't hazard your UPS job.
07-18-2019, 05:14 AM
#154
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Originally Posted by Elevation
If you're in the pool, there are ways to maintain currency and competency without taking a flying job someplace. You essentially have a golden ticket that thousands of us are trying to get. Pursuing any kind of additional aviation job is a lot of long-term risk for very little short-term rewards.
If you feel confident passing training at either of these places (Atlas or PSA) you'll pass training at UPS. If you feel like you need to build your skills, then you definitely don't want to do that at a carrier which could derail your position at UPS.
So why take the risk? There are lots of avenues to pay your bills that won't hazard your UPS job.
If you feel confident passing training at either of these places (Atlas or PSA) you'll pass training at UPS. If you feel like you need to build your skills, then you definitely don't want to do that at a carrier which could derail your position at UPS.
So why take the risk? There are lots of avenues to pay your bills that won't hazard your UPS job.
07-18-2019, 05:18 AM
#155
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Originally Posted by nickbvt82
I do have a great f-18 flying job with the navy reserves and I plan to do a few months full time with them in the hopes UPS calls.. . but that is not long term... and non flying jobs are no where near as compatible with the navy reserve job that requires 9 days a month on average .
07-18-2019, 06:07 AM
#156
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Originally Posted by Puck Hawg
Personally, I’d go to PSA. Atlas training is NOT AQP, and their bust rate is high. The last thing you need to do while waiting for a class at UPS is pink slip a check ride at Atlas.
Up to 4-5 years ago hiring was mostly horizontal and now it’s mostly vertical.
Hiring straight out of turbo props.
The 74 being your first jet is a big step
So it’s to be expected to see a higher fail rate when hiring with less and less experience.
It’s also a matter of hiring the lesser motivated as the “market is good anyway”.
07-18-2019, 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted by TiredSoul
You have to see that higher fail rate in context.
Up to 4-5 years ago hiring was mostly horizontal and now it’s mostly vertical.
Hiring straight out of turbo props.
The 74 being your first jet is a big step
So it’s to be expected to see a higher fail rate when hiring with less and less experience.
It’s also a matter of hiring the lesser motivated as the “market is good anyway”.
Up to 4-5 years ago hiring was mostly horizontal and now it’s mostly vertical.
Hiring straight out of turbo props.
The 74 being your first jet is a big step
So it’s to be expected to see a higher fail rate when hiring with less and less experience.
It’s also a matter of hiring the lesser motivated as the “market is good anyway”.
Me, as well
As transitioning to part 121 flying. does anyone have any experience either first or second hand of mil guys doing atlas /southern training
07-18-2019, 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by nickbvt82
I am under no illusion that coming from. Single seat F18 background will present unique challenges to
Me, as well
As transitioning to part 121 flying. does anyone have any experience either first or second hand of mil guys doing atlas /southern training
Me, as well
As transitioning to part 121 flying. does anyone have any experience either first or second hand of mil guys doing atlas /southern training
07-18-2019, 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by nickbvt82
I am under no illusion that coming from. Single seat F18 background will present unique challenges to
Me, as well
As transitioning to part 121 flying. does anyone have any experience either first or second hand of mil guys doing atlas /southern training
Me, as well
As transitioning to part 121 flying. does anyone have any experience either first or second hand of mil guys doing atlas /southern training
That being said, you may be missing an important point. You (or your sim partner) happen to have a bad day on your type ride (we ALL have bad days regardless of backgrounds) and you lose your place in the pool at Brown as well as making it challenging to even get an interview anywhere else.
I highly recommend doing everything possible to just mark time until you get your UPS class date. Instruct at your local flight school, work at Home Depot, whatever. Just don’t jeopardize your job offer...
07-18-2019, 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Droopy
I’m a retired single seat guy at Atlas. As former mil, you’ll be familiar with the training. It’s not spoon fed. You have to study, plan, and do the work. The morale is as bad here as the frequent posters state.
That being said, you may be missing an important point. You (or your sim partner) happen to have a bad day on your type ride (we ALL have bad days regardless of backgrounds) and you lose your place in the pool at Brown as well as making it challenging to even get an interview anywhere else.
I highly recommend doing everything possible to just mark time until you get your UPS class date. Instruct at your local flight school, work at Home Depot, whatever. Just don’t jeopardize your job offer...
That being said, you may be missing an important point. You (or your sim partner) happen to have a bad day on your type ride (we ALL have bad days regardless of backgrounds) and you lose your place in the pool at Brown as well as making it challenging to even get an interview anywhere else.
I highly recommend doing everything possible to just mark time until you get your UPS class date. Instruct at your local flight school, work at Home Depot, whatever. Just don’t jeopardize your job offer...
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