Furloughs coming to Atlas
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Dont forget. Senior mgmt has made their money, and Amazon can make the shareholders whole.
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There are always talks ungoing. The meetings are just to appease and put on a show. Management called union asking for scope relief, to discuss more outsourcing.
The last proposal from mgmt was current book. The union and mgmt couldn’t even get a TA down for Deadhead language, after 3 years of negotiations. If anyone thinks a new CBA is near, you’re all grossly mistaking.
The last proposal from mgmt was current book. The union and mgmt couldn’t even get a TA down for Deadhead language, after 3 years of negotiations. If anyone thinks a new CBA is near, you’re all grossly mistaking.
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No, they also invalidate laws..... They recently invalidated portions of the ACA, they recently invalidated sections of laws from a few states. Go ask any of the gay rights movement folks about using the courts to invalidate laws.
It would be very simple for the courts to determine that ACMI (and regionals for that matter) do not fall under the RLA and instead fall under the NLRA. The RLA clearly never envisioned the subcontractor business model. The RLA exists to preserve the status quo for uninterrupted service. There is no status quo in the subcontractor business model. The courts could simply place them under the NLRA until such time as Congress corrects the legislation.
It would be very simple for the courts to determine that ACMI (and regionals for that matter) do not fall under the RLA and instead fall under the NLRA. The RLA clearly never envisioned the subcontractor business model. The RLA exists to preserve the status quo for uninterrupted service. There is no status quo in the subcontractor business model. The courts could simply place them under the NLRA until such time as Congress corrects the legislation.
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In other words, the lawyers don't care if the RLA does not work very well for their membership; they care if it works for them, and are afraid to allow any changes from either side.
Personally, I think they like the RLA as is, it ensures you need lots of lawyers around to do anything. Job security.
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The fact that the very same RLA language is used to prevent/prohibit station closure in the rail industry while in section six; yet allows base/station closure in the air industry shows diverging treatment of two groups under the same regulation/law. It's absolutely a legitimate argument. However, you will never see APA, ALPA nor Teamsters do anything about the RLA in any way. In 2014 at the ALPA National BOD meeting I threw a motion on the floor of the BOD Legislative Affairs committee meeting to direct the PAC to work towards modernizing the RLA commensurate with modern business practices. It was seconded by the Delta guys and placed on the agenda. That triggered a 3.5 hour Segway where I think every single lawyer National had in the building came to the committee room to speak at length why they didn't want to touch the RLA with a 10 foot pole. I'll sum up the 3.5 hours in two sentences. They're afraid that if they open the door to changes to the RLA, that management will come wanting changes to the RLA. That over the many years they (the lawyers) have gotten very good at knowing what will and won't fly under the RLA, and changes would eradicate those precedents.
In other words, the lawyers don't care if the RLA does not work very well for their membership; they care if it works for them, and are afraid to allow any changes from either side.
Personally, I think they like the RLA as is, it ensures you need lots of lawyers around to do anything. Job security.
In other words, the lawyers don't care if the RLA does not work very well for their membership; they care if it works for them, and are afraid to allow any changes from either side.
Personally, I think they like the RLA as is, it ensures you need lots of lawyers around to do anything. Job security.
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