Cicada

If Atlas pilots don't totally decertify the Teamsters as their bargaining agent, they will have to honor the arbitrated decision.

scrupulous

I would expect little truth from the usual "round table" discussion. Probably more misdirection/deflection at a minimum unless they get something out of it for themselves.

A couple of things led to this. One was they flight pay loss amendment they refused to comply with and defend themselves by saying legal said they were OK to continue as before. The same legal staff that said under another admin that a work action would not stand up in court years ago or fighting the earlier arbitration would be successful. Guess that changes after the billable hours started coming in (@1 million last year amount just three lawyers). Check the LM-2's

There is another which I won't address here.

Packrat

He screwed the Alaska pilots on a contract arbitration once upon a time as well.

dogo

When Atlas leaves.....,leave the war chest created by Airborne Express pilots! Not Yo moneee$

sandman22

How was the roundtable?

727CA

Maybe ABX should be next to follow suit and get rid of Teamsters. They're too small for in house. Maybe choose the lesser of the two evils-ALPA

abxflyr

Kinda funny listening to this thread...and I'm certain it will get more colorful in the days/weeks to come.

Your representative group is only what you and your fellow members make of it. Inhouse, outhouse, ALPA, Teamsters, APA, IPA, SWAPA ...CBA. None of them matter if your members (and the leadership) aren't engaged and working together. Volunteer members spend enough time fighting their respective companies...makes the job even more difficult when you spend energies fighting your own members. Keeping in mind you can only give '100%', so any part of that which is misdirected...well, you get the jest.

Changing affiliations really doesn't fix whatever problem you have.

I recognize the issue for Atlas is an attempt to outwit the decision/award that is not in their favor. For the rest of their problems (some have been aired thru this forum)...well, they remain either way.

iPilot

Changing local is hardly changing representation. It’s more of an administrative thing than anything. To the average pilot the only thing that changes is a new lanyard.

dogo

New local = zero balance $$$. Atlas doesn’t have compulsory dues so you might want to change that equation.

iPilot

That’s completely false.