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09-19-2019, 07:40 AM
#22
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Originally Posted by dogo
Which part? Are you saying that all pilots at Atlas are dues paying members? When did that change? What about the senior verified Eastern scabs that hired on during the Choudry days?
09-19-2019, 08:34 AM
#24
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Originally Posted by iPilot
Changing local is hardly changing representation. It’s more of an administrative thing than anything. To the average pilot the only thing that changes is a new lanyard.
The down side is that you'll have less dues money but you should be getting adequate support financially from the Airline Division.
09-19-2019, 08:38 AM
#25
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Originally Posted by dogo
Which part? Are you saying that all pilots at Atlas are dues paying members? When did that change? What about the senior verified Eastern scabs that hired on during the Choudry days?
09-19-2019, 04:20 PM
#26
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Originally Posted by Cicada
If Atlas pilots don't totally decertify the Teamsters as their bargaining agent, they will have to honor the arbitrated decision.
09-19-2019, 04:24 PM
#27
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Originally Posted by abxflyr
Kinda funny listening to this thread...and I'm certain it will get more colorful in the days/weeks to come.
Your representative group is only what you and your fellow members make of it. Inhouse, outhouse, ALPA, Teamsters, APA, IPA, SWAPA ...CBA. None of them matter if your members (and the leadership) aren't engaged and working together. Volunteer members spend enough time fighting their respective companies...makes the job even more difficult when you spend energies fighting your own members. Keeping in mind you can only give '100%', so any part of that which is misdirected...well, you get the jest.
Changing affiliations really doesn't fix whatever problem you have.
I recognize the issue for Atlas is an attempt to outwit the decision/award that is not in their favor. For the rest of their problems (some have been aired thru this forum)...well, they remain either way.
Your representative group is only what you and your fellow members make of it. Inhouse, outhouse, ALPA, Teamsters, APA, IPA, SWAPA ...CBA. None of them matter if your members (and the leadership) aren't engaged and working together. Volunteer members spend enough time fighting their respective companies...makes the job even more difficult when you spend energies fighting your own members. Keeping in mind you can only give '100%', so any part of that which is misdirected...well, you get the jest.
Changing affiliations really doesn't fix whatever problem you have.
I recognize the issue for Atlas is an attempt to outwit the decision/award that is not in their favor. For the rest of their problems (some have been aired thru this forum)...well, they remain either way.
09-22-2019, 12:35 PM
#29
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Originally Posted by flyguy727
I want to see the news release.
The pilot group will have more information on how things are going in a couple of months.
Last edited by NoJoy; 09-22-2019 at 01:09 PM.
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