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Old 09-17-2019, 04:09 PM
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The Atlas pilots have left Teamsters 1224 and are forming their own local.
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Originally Posted by Birdsmash View Post
The Atlas pilots have left Teamsters 1224 and are forming their own local.
Really?
Care to elaborate
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The Atlas pilots have left Teamsters 1224 and are forming their own local.
I heard this was in the works.
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The Atlas pilots have left Teamsters 1224 and are forming their own local.
Good for them!

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My impression was that Atlas pilots dominated 1224 and the head of the local was an Atlas pilot. Is this therefore some kind of maneuver to avoid the "combine the lists" contract language? Wouldn't there have to have been a vote that people would have debated on here and elsewhere, as with the K4 pilots, if this were "real"? Can one undermine the system board decisions nunc pro tunc by having one pilot group leave the local now? Here is another 3 years of litigation coming... And maybe that is the point.
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Originally Posted by Cicada View Post
Good for them!
George Nicolau has seen his better days as an arbitrator years ago.
Why he continues to be chosen to arbitrate at age 94 is beyond belief.
Leaving the Teamsters is the way out of the latest arbitrated debacle.
One would have to look far and wide to find any mutually-acceptable arbitrator that would have read the express terms of the CBAs any differently.
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Originally Posted by Birdsmash View Post
The Atlas pilots have left Teamsters 1224 and are forming their own local.
Good for them!
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It wouldn't be a decertification of Teamsters which would require a vote and possibly impact agreements made their under. I think it would just be an establishment of a stand alone local still under Teamsters. Just a guess.... Probably no change in our legal dealing with AAWW but a change to our dealings with National.
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We’ll get more details tomorrow at the “roundtable” conference call. It should be one of the better ones.
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We’ll get more details tomorrow at the “roundtable” conference call. It should be one of the better ones.
George Nicolau as an arbitrator has delivered two decisions in airline arbitrations which have actually resulted in the airlines pilots decertifying their bargaining agents.
USAirways pilots
Now likely Atlas pilots
The guy is 94 yrs old, he needs to retire.
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