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Old 09-22-2019, 08:54 AM
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https://www.businessinsider.com/amazon-atlas-air-fatal-crash-pilots-sue-2019-9?r=US&IR=T

The surviving family of Aska, who died at 44, claims in a new lawsuit that negligence from Atlas Air and Amazon, as well as Florida-based companies F&E Aircraft Maintenance and Flightstar Aircraft Services, "directly and proximately caused the death" of the pilot. The family is suing the four companies in a lawsuit filed on Sept. 19 in the 11th Circuit Court for the State of Florida.

"Conrad was the leader of the family," Elliot Aska, who is the late pilot's brother, told Business Insider. "We looked to him. He was a strong, vibrant person."

Conrad is survived by several family members including his daughter Kayla Aska, who is 19 and in college. "That's something now she has to experience in a whole different way," Elliot said. "She won't have the privilege of his guidance."

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Atlas Air, which is contracted to fly Amazon Air's planes along with air cargo company ATSG, employed Aska. The company, according to the federal suit, "owed a duty to the decedent to maintain and use the subject aircraft with the highest degree of care, including a nondelegable duty to ensure its airworthiness, and to exercise the highest degree of care to prevent injury of any kind."

The airline also failed to ensure pilots were well-trained or well-rested, the suit states. The lawsuit claims that Amazon also played a role in those actions.

"Amazon knew or should have known that its history of overworking pilots and forcing them to fly under fatiguing conditions and with little rest time would create an unreasonable risk of harm or death to persons, like decedent, aboard the aircraft," the suit states.

An Atlas Air spokesperson said the airline does not comment on litigation.

"We remain heartbroken by the loss of Flight 3591 that claimed the lives of two Atlas Air pilots, and a third pilot from another airline that was a passenger," an Atlas Air spokesperson told Business Insider in a statement. "Their families continue to be our top priority."

Amazon did not respond to a Business Insider request for comment.
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Guess the NTSB is getting ready to spill the beans so it's high time to get ahead of the story...
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If what I've heard about this is anywhere in the vicinity of correct, I hope the 2 victims sue that family for every penny they get in a settlement and then some.
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If what I've heard about this is anywhere in the vicinity of correct, I hope the 2 victims sue that family for every penny they get in a settlement and then some.
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Originally Posted by flyguy23 View Post
If what I've heard about this is anywhere in the vicinity of correct, I hope the 2 victims sue that family for every penny they get in a settlement and then some.
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3 victims including jumpseater
I think they were not including the F/O as a victim.
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If what I've heard about this is anywhere in the vicinity of correct, I hope the 2 victims sue that family for every penny they get in a settlement and then some.


You hope they sue the family or the company?


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Guess the NTSB is getting ready to spill the beans so it's high time to get ahead of the story...
Bingo. The suit must be alleging that it's the airline's fault that they hired the plaintiff-decedent and put him in a high-performance aircraft, despite his employment history and latent poor-startle-response.

Surely they can't be serious.

In truth, reading between the lines, what they're likely to say is that his performance that day was the result of fatigue, which they will likely say is the airline's fault, and they will say that Amazon scheduled lines that caused Atlas to give its pilots fatiguing schedules.

My personal opinion is that the family should seriously consider whether their desire to collect $$ outweighs what will be done to this man's memory when defense attorneys pick apart every aspect of his life and flying history and vent it in court (i.e. publicly). If it were somebody I truly loved, I would rather leave sleeping dogs lie.

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Bingo. The suit must be alleging that it's the airline's fault that they hired the plaintiff-decedent and put him in a high-performance aircraft, despite his employment history and latent poor-startle-response.

Surely they can't be serious.

In truth, reading between the lines, what they're likely to say is that his performance that day was the result of fatigue, which they will likely say is the airline's fault, and they will say that Amazon scheduled lines that caused Atlas to give its pilots fatiguing schedules.

My personal opinion is that the family should seriously consider whether their desire to collect $$ outweighs what will be done to this man's memory when defense attorneys pick apart every aspect of his life and flying history and vent it in court (i.e. publicly). If it were somebody I truly loved, I would rather leave sleeping dogs lie.
Sounds like cheap greed to me. Posturing themselves as co-victims of a tragedy and dreaming of a piece of the pie without second thought of how it actually may be perceived once the final report is released. Classy...
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Should be an extremely cheap settlement. 4 figures max.
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Really? They're suing Atlas, maintenance and Amazon? Amazon has nothing to do with this lawsuit. They have routes they want flown and contract airlines do the work. It's up to the individual airlines crew planning to properly construct the lines to avoid fatigue.
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