Fixnem2Flyinem

I disagree about not learning from this accident. But the thing is, we just have to wait for the final report to be published and stop armchair quarterbacking. The different rumors I’ve heard about this accident frustrates me. Wait until the facts are laid out via the people actually investigating, then learn from it. I guarantee there will be lessons learned.

Reactivity

You're either trolling or believing way too much of what Red Face Bucky tells you.

Elevation

I hope you're right. I actually mean that, too. I fear we're going to learn nothing because our moves are primarily focused on denying we have any safety problem at all. Even without any input from the accident investigation, we're objectively worse than our counterparts in various metrics. I've gone into a little detail on these issues elsewhere. We're not doing the easy stuff, even. We're just denying we have a problem.

With regard to accident responses, generally responses occur before final reports are published. We can cite a number of accidents where this occurred. I agree rumors on APC and PPRUNE are bunk. That said other sources of information, say from our personnel that were party to the investigation, are already available to generate initial corrections. We're doing nothing.

Learning implies that we modify our behavior based on new information. I don't see us changing out behavior. We haven't learned. I doubt we will learn.

I hope I'm wrong. If I'm right, change is required. Change requires pressure. Ridicule isn't the way I'd apply pressure, but it is pressure none-the-less. I hope the embarrassment and ridicule we get eventually generates some kind or result. We need results.

Elevation

I also hope I'm just looking at this through the wrong lens. I'd love to discover that I'm ridiculously pessimistic, or that I haven't evaluated the data in front of me properly. I'd be a happier pilot if I knew I was wrong about this stuff.

boeingdvr

Thank god- you can have them. We can go back to flying -400’s around the world with out Amazon meddling in our lives.

Globemaster2827

Imagine all the "Prime Air" bag tags that'll need to be made!

Screwed

But you wont have the 737 !

While we give away the 767 due to gross mismanagement, we are also parking and giving away 777's!

You just don't see the big picture like Atlas Execs. We are going to shrink our way to HUGE profits!

The 737 is the future of Atlas.