What has Teamsters done for Atlas and ABX?
10-30-2019, 06:31 PM
#11
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Originally Posted by point432
So...you’re thinking if ABX and Atlas go to ALPA all problems will be solved and all will be forgiven? 
You would be still dealing with the same pilot group.
Maybe it would fix somethings, but it wouldn’t fix mgmts desire to move forward. I’m talking 2 engine DC8s, DIY EFBs, the IT department issues...what else? The culture needs to change from the top down.
I’m glad your happy over there. But your attitude on here is awful toward your other airline. Are you always like this? You talk to your spouse like this? How does he or she feel about the attitude? Lol
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You would be still dealing with the same pilot group. Maybe it would fix somethings, but it wouldn’t fix mgmts desire to move forward. I’m talking 2 engine DC8s, DIY EFBs, the IT department issues...what else? The culture needs to change from the top down.
I’m glad your happy over there. But your attitude on here is awful toward your other airline. Are you always like this? You talk to your spouse like this? How does he or she feel about the attitude? Lol
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10-30-2019, 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Globemaster2827
They've fought as hard as they can for an Industry Standard contract. Their pilots want more than to vote for a 5% contribution into a 401k and then to blame it on former leadership.... After begging to vote yes for that pitiful retirement.
It looks to me like all that hard work is paying off too. Atlas management can't blame the Union for the drug out contract negotiations every 3 months while they hemorrhage money and the stock becomes worthless. Eventually Management can break up the company or pay their pilots but as long as their pilots are solid it doesn't really matter who their Union is.
As long as other ACMI carriers continue to accept unpaid 24-7s and run around with "Prime Air" bag tags they'll continue to get compensated like minor league pilots.
It looks to me like all that hard work is paying off too. Atlas management can't blame the Union for the drug out contract negotiations every 3 months while they hemorrhage money and the stock becomes worthless. Eventually Management can break up the company or pay their pilots but as long as their pilots are solid it doesn't really matter who their Union is.
As long as other ACMI carriers continue to accept unpaid 24-7s and run around with "Prime Air" bag tags they'll continue to get compensated like minor league pilots.
its sad really...
10-30-2019, 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Lockheed
I see we at K4 are living rent free inside your head
its sad really...
its sad really...
10-30-2019, 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by akfrtdwg 57
Globe is at Purple. I'm pretty sure it's safe to say no one is living rent free in his head. Since he has zero skin the game I think he just wants what's best for his former friends at Atlas.
10-30-2019, 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Lockheed
I see we at K4 are living rent free inside your head
its sad really...
its sad really...
If all of you had left in 2015 after voting that POS contract down you'd be Captains or Wide Body FOs right now instead of being gone all the time and working until your 90 with no retirement.
10-30-2019, 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by akfrtdwg 57
Globe is at Purple. I'm pretty sure it's safe to say no one is living rent free in his head. Since he has zero skin the game I think he just wants what's best for his former friends at Atlas.
10-30-2019, 09:27 PM
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Hey Globe,
"As long as other ACMI carriers continue to accept unpaid 24-7s and run around with "Prime Air" bag tags they'll continue to get compensated like minor league pilots."
Who doesnt' get compensated while on a 24-7? You mean pay ceases on a 1/7? Who does that?
"As long as other ACMI carriers continue to accept unpaid 24-7s and run around with "Prime Air" bag tags they'll continue to get compensated like minor league pilots."
Who doesnt' get compensated while on a 24-7? You mean pay ceases on a 1/7? Who does that?
10-31-2019, 02:45 AM
#19
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Originally Posted by Globemaster2827
Not inside mine. I know what I'm worth and left. If JD and BF want a discounted rate they get what they pay for. Right now their block hours are slipping because more of us left than they could legally train without crashing more jets.
If all of you had left in 2015 after voting that POS contract down you'd be Captains or Wide Body FOs right now instead of being gone all the time and working until your 90 with no retirement.
If all of you had left in 2015 after voting that POS contract down you'd be Captains or Wide Body FOs right now instead of being gone all the time and working until your 90 with no retirement.
but its not our CBA
we are all very happy for you
you just cant stomach the fact that some of us are fighters...we fought people like you, who cant live without perfection, we fought our management for 6.5 years...and won, we fought the bozo's at 1224 and we ran over them in spectacular fashion,
we won at the NMB, we won at ALPA, and we will win with our next CBA
seems your a fighter too....for yourself
10-31-2019, 03:17 AM
#20
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Originally Posted by Globemaster2827
Not inside mine. I know what I'm worth and left. If JD and BF want a discounted rate they get what they pay for. Right now their block hours are slipping because more of us left than they could legally train without crashing more jets.
If all of you had left in 2015 after voting that POS contract down you'd be Captains or Wide Body FOs right now instead of being gone all the time and working until your 90 with no retirement.
If all of you had left in 2015 after voting that POS contract down you'd be Captains or Wide Body FOs right now instead of being gone all the time and working until your 90 with no retirement.
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