100 resigned AAWW
11-26-2019, 07:14 PM
#21
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
I was referring to management not adapting to the current pilot shortage if you read the context.
What part of this didn’t you get?
What part of this didn’t you get?
11-27-2019, 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by wjcandee
Of course, because every cargo thread on APC ultimately ends up being about ABX. 
I think this one started off as being about Atlas.
I think this one started off as being about Atlas.
11-27-2019, 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by DC8DRIVER
Labor has never destroyed any airline. Learn the history of your industry.
Last edited by threeighteen; 11-27-2019 at 08:08 AM.
11-27-2019, 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by threeighteen
Well let's not speak in absolutes. UALPA got pretty close to destroying United. Bankruptcy court was the only thing that "saved" the airline, and the retirees paid for it, and the rest of the country lost their pensions because of that bankruptcy proceeding.
But on the bright side, we don't have any retirement at Atlas so, we have that going for us...
11-27-2019, 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by sandman22
What happened to the Atlas CBA after the company declared bankruptcy in 2004? Did the pilots vote on a CBA after the bankruptcy or was it a forced arbitration?
The subsequent 2011 contract was arbitrated, but only 4 items went to the arbitrator. Everything else having been TA'd between the union and management in the lead-up to the arbitration.
11-27-2019, 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Makinitup
More like they’ll put the Red Dress on one more time and fill their wallets on the way out. And I don’t think any would blame them.
AAWW is as bad (and worse) to its Pilots as people are trying to tell you. No trip/line ownership, no line hour pay protection for cancellations ....basically 62 hours guarantee every month, and 20 days away from home.
Thanks for the type rating and Oceanic / International experience line on my resume. I would have stayed for LEADING pay and work rules.
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