Beech Dude

Thanks for the info! I appreciate it.

ESPRIT

The union was busted by 35 pilots...not 2. Get your facts straight.

Jetpowered

The union was voted off the property by a majority of the k2 pilots because they had around 5 years of negotiating with zero results. Ther were not even close to a contract.
k2 pilots never HAVE to touch a load. they can get load pay however if they want it and they each make an extra $800.00 per leg for load pay.
No k2 pilot gets to an out station and has to get his own way home. We are provided tickets in that scenario.

ESPRIT

What he said.....

Teamsters had FIVE years and not one single TA! The negotiators were deemed too ineffective and incompetent that they were voted off by the majority of the pilots. That happened 3 months ago and we have already seen tangible results.

Cujo665

was the vote not 33 to 35 ?

somewhereupther

$35/day ADHOC incentive per diem GONE.

That’s tangible for sure. 🙄

Jetpowered

That is very misleading. The ad hoc per diem is still there for all K2 crews. No one received ad hoc per diem for just sitting around yip except the 727 guys. Now everyone gets the extra $35/day ad hoc per diem when activated or on the road, as well as hotels paid for by the company while in yip and everywhere else. If you want to simply find things to complain about, please find an airline that makes you happy or suits your needs and go there. Life is far too short to spend your time looking at half-empty glasses.

somewhereupther

perhaps the way I stated it is misleading.

Now let’s evaluate something.

1. Only 2 737s are outfitted for ADHOC, and one of those can only carry 7500lbs of widgets.

2. B737 crews rarely spend time in YIP

3. All K2 pilots are YIP based

4. B737 crews get the $48/day per diem while flying DHL, or any other time they’re away from YIP.

5. B727 crews did not get any per diem while sitting ADHOC in YIP except the $35/day incentive.

6. B737 crews work a 13/10 schedule with no overlapping of crew

7. B727 crews work a 16/12 schedule with 2 of the 16 overlapping each other.

So to review, B737 crews get per diem to fly scheduled DHL runs, or any other time they’re away from base (which is ALWAYS), while B727 crews get $0 for sitting in YIP for 144 hours of on call “legally available.”

B727 crews were being compensated the $35 to level the playing field. That’s just over $7k per annum now evaporated.

I’m failing to see how this is forward progress.

Perhaps the way I worded my response is slightly misleading, but the way you make it out to sound is entirely misleading to what actually happened.

somewhereupther

To add to the evaluation:

B737 crews work 13 days per bid period, there are 13 bid periods.

Per diem equates to $48*13*13= $8112 of guaranteed per diem.

B727 crews work 16 days per bid period, there are 13 bid periods.

Adhoc per diem incentive equated to $35*16*13= $7280 of what was once guaranteed per diem.

B727 crews only got the extra $2/hr regular away from base per diem if they flew a trip.

B737 crews work less days than B727 crews but get paid more.

Again I fail to see how this is improvement.

Jetpowered

Please give me just a bit. I will get you a reply that hopefully will help clarify some of these issues.