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Old 12-27-2019, 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by sandman22 View Post
Sounds like you've fallen for management propaganda. They'll probably even convince you to go the in-house union route. Enjoy your sub-par contract for life!
How does switching to a different, better union, make one a management stooge? You're a SPECIAL kind of stupid I see.

Which FE Union negotiator are you?

Each pilot on the property has already lost out on 10-20k over the course of the last year due to the fact that we were one or two votes shy of decertification last year. Money we will never recoup...I'll take my chances with the new world order. Teamsters should stick to the trucking business.

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Old 12-27-2019, 03:28 PM
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How does switching to a different, better union, make one a management stooge? You're a SPECIAL kind of stupid I see.

Which FE Union negotiator are you?

Each pilot on the property has already lost out on 10-20k over the course of the last year due to the fact that we were one or two votes shy of decertification last year. Money we will never recoup...I'll take my chances with the new world order. Teamsters should stick to the trucking business.
You haven't switched to a "different, better union" yet have you? And who knows if you will? Did you ever consider that management might be the primary reason why you don't have a new contract?
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Old 12-27-2019, 03:31 PM
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I thought Kalitta was ALPA
They are. They were 1224.
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Old 12-27-2019, 03:38 PM
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Bye bye Teamsters 1224...don't let the door hit you on the way out. More than 5 years and not ONE SINGLE TA.
So the Horizon Airlines CBA in 2016 doesn't count?

I'm curious how one reaches the conclusion that a lack of progress in contract negotiations has more to do with the union than the two parties involved in the negotiation.
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Old 12-27-2019, 04:21 PM
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I was opposed to the switch from Teamsters to ALPA over at K4. However, the pilot group voted overwhelmingly to make the move. Since then, ALPA has really impressed me. I’m involved in multiple committees and interact with ALPA National a decent amount and I have to say the tools at our disposal are top notch. I worry about the viability of an in house union at a smaller shop like yours. I just think you’re going to get outspent by Management. I don’t think K4 had the pilot’s to make in house viable let alone K2.

Anyway, I wish the best for our K2 brothers/sisters and hope to see you guys over here with us at ALPA.
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Old 12-27-2019, 05:03 PM
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So the Horizon Airlines CBA in 2016 doesn't count?

I'm curious how one reaches the conclusion that a lack of progress in contract negotiations has more to do with the union than the two parties involved in the negotiation.
When you witness incompetence not only in negotiating a contract, but in being an airline pilot, it doesn't exactly exude confidence in the pilot group. You're not on our property, I am, so I know how our pilots feel.
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Old 12-28-2019, 11:08 AM
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Changing Unions right before negotiations would make zero sense for K4... When does it open? I'll definitely be rooting for you guys!
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Old 12-28-2019, 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Globemaster2827 View Post
Changing Unions right before negotiations would make zero sense for K4... When does it open? I'll definitely be rooting for you guys!
He is talking about K2 not K4
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Old 12-28-2019, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by CA Deplorable View Post
He is talking about K2 not K4
I didn't catch that... With Atlas leaving 1224, I don't understand why anyone would join it.
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Old 12-28-2019, 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Globemaster2827 View Post
I didn't catch that... With Atlas leaving 1224, I don't understand why anyone would join it.
Yes...they are the benchmark.
K2 already is represented by 1224
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