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10-14-2005, 02:08 PM

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Ups Pilot Contract

Hearing That The Company Has A 1.3 Bil/8 Year Proposal On The Table. Does Anyone Else Have Any Info?

10-14-2005, 03:49 PM

L'il J.Seinfeld

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I have heard that ballpark figure as well. I guess that converts to roughly a 30% pay raise? That'd be a nice figure to see. Hopefully newhire pay could crack 3k/month!

10-14-2005, 05:07 PM

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8 years?, Thats a DOA from me. 8 years actually means 10-12 if our current contract is anything to reference... The pay numbers I can think about, but we need to be realistic about the length.

10-15-2005, 07:53 AM

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To my Brown Brothers: Remember, there are many facets to a contract besides hourly rates. High hourly rates can be washed out by poor work rules. Look at the whole package. Good Luck! We are right there, too!

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10-15-2005, 01:36 PM

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Ups Would Never Violate Work Rules, Would They?

10-16-2005, 11:50 AM

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10-17-2005, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by BoynamedSue

8 years?? how do you spell NO again?!

sue

Well, I would have to look at the whole agreement first, not throwing out a "No" just because of a long contract.

What if we got top industry rates, 3% raise per year for 8 years, our B scale gets the axe, our retirement leads the industry, our scope is ironclad, and scheduling vastly improved? That kind of contract would be voted in by 80%.

10-17-2005, 09:42 PM

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There in lies the problem, unfortunately, you're willing to settle for all that you posted and a lousey 3% inc that doesnt even cover cost of living increases. Now, if you made that a 5% inc with everything else you said, I would consider it.

You know as well as I do that an 8 year contract will actually equal 10-12 years and of course as soon as we start neg again, our union dues will go up and then where will your 3% be???

I hear guys talking about how they would be happy with $240 an hour for a 12 year Capt and I think these guys must be nuts! $240 an hour for the 747-400 or A380, talk about being generous. Hell, FedEx is already making $240 an hour and this is what we want to shoot for as an industry leading contract? I sincerly hope that FedEx settles their contract first so that we have a more realistic number for some of the pilots in our membership to see...

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