Atlas Air
01-27-2020, 06:08 PM
#12
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Atlas/Polar contract here:
http://pdb.bfcsite.com/wp-content/up...f217ab13b1.pdf
Southern contract here:
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More info at
https://pilotsdeservebetter.org/
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AtlasFacts.org
http://pdb.bfcsite.com/wp-content/up...f217ab13b1.pdf
Southern contract here:
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More info at
https://pilotsdeservebetter.org/
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AtlasFacts.org
01-27-2020, 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by zerozero
Atlas/Polar contract here:
http://pdb.bfcsite.com/wp-content/up...f217ab13b1.pdf
Southern contract here:
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More info at
https://pilotsdeservebetter.org/
and
AtlasFacts.org
http://pdb.bfcsite.com/wp-content/up...f217ab13b1.pdf
Southern contract here:
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More info at
https://pilotsdeservebetter.org/
and
AtlasFacts.org
01-27-2020, 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by WhipWhitaker
That southern contract is N/A anymore, and hasn’t been in effect in a year or so.
01-28-2020, 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Birdsmash
Sort of. Technically, I believe the Southern Contract is still amendable. All but 3 sections have been superseded by the LOA. The LOA brought the Southern pilots up to parity with the Atlas pilots. The three sections that are different is Scope (equally as worthless as Atlas), Contract Instructors (moving towards all in-house training again), and Catering (a few might disagree but within Southern’s DHL 777 system it’s not a huge issue).
Close...
1) Scope - Southern Air kept their old scope.
2) Contract Instructors - Management would not do the deal unless they kept the ability to outsource the entire instructor ranks to non-seniority list pilots that was allowed in the Southern CBA. (Atlas has a 50% limit).
3) Catering - Management insisted on keeping the Southern Air language for catering.
Everything else is now the same as the Atlas contract.
01-28-2020, 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Asiabound
What's the story behind the 747s being parked? Purely because of staffing or loss of contracts also?
01-28-2020, 08:43 AM
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It really does seem like Polar/Southern/Atlas
...have encountered the perfect storm
1. Inept and abusive management
2. Underpaid and demoralized pilots
3. Nearly unprecedented opportunity at better paying places with better QOL
4. Potential worldwide pandemic
i guess someone might want to go there just for the type rating - assuming they can finish before the place goes under. That would be the only reason I could see for going there.
1. Inept and abusive management
2. Underpaid and demoralized pilots
3. Nearly unprecedented opportunity at better paying places with better QOL
4. Potential worldwide pandemic
i guess someone might want to go there just for the type rating - assuming they can finish before the place goes under. That would be the only reason I could see for going there.
01-28-2020, 12:53 PM
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We are done. Unless a Catastrophic shift in mgmt ASAP. Atlas will cease to exist. To much uncertainty
NH class has 3 people in it Monday. We can longer staff the flying we have, and we certainly won’t staff any future flying- everyone knows we need a CBA, so I don’t see us getting future flying until one is in place.
Only 9 days of negotiations scheduled over the next 3 months.
It’s been fun guys and girls- But the lady is signing.
NH class has 3 people in it Monday. We can longer staff the flying we have, and we certainly won’t staff any future flying- everyone knows we need a CBA, so I don’t see us getting future flying until one is in place.
Only 9 days of negotiations scheduled over the next 3 months.
It’s been fun guys and girls- But the lady is signing.
01-28-2020, 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by boeingdvr
It’s been fun guys and girls- But the lady is signing.
Now she is signing! Is that more SJW, woke millennial bullcrap?
Couple serious questions for you:
3 out of how many? Is that a 767 class?
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